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Topic: Four Parks: One Stale World?

#	Author	Message
71	davewasbaloo Wed 11/5/2008 3:56p	Maybe they have all these Remember the Magic campaigns because they haven't created much for a while. All we have in Florida is our memories!
72	Spirit of 74 Wed 11/5/2008 4:53p	<<All of those wouldn't it be nice sayings of yours Spirit made me want to break into a Beach Boys tune!>> Let's all grab our boards and head to the beach! <<Why were you excited I told you what the outcome was going to be months ago. I just wonder how long this Joyus Honeymoon will last, and the people realize that unchecked politicians from both parties got us into this mess.>> Well ... some of us believe that one party (and one individual) was more to blame. And I don't expect a honeymoon, but I do expect a lot more people in this country are going to feel a lot more empowered and a whole lot less hopeless and on the sidelines ... and that can only lead to more action, which can only help all Americans. I still can't believe that an African-American won a landslide election in George Bush's Walmarted America. I think we grew up ... if only a bit it was a significant bit. I can only tell you that I feel like a cloud has lifted and whether that is reality or in my head or (most likely) a bit of both, it doesn't matter. It's amazing what a change of attitude can do ...
73	Spirit of 74 Wed 11/5/2008 4:55p	<<Losers, and also rans sit on the side lines, while leaders act. Disney use to be innovative, and set the extremely high standards for themselves that others would have to try, and achieve. It seems now that Disney is content on sitting around hoping that they don't have to act. They rely on their past reputation rather than creating even higher standards for the Millions of Disney fans. They are becoming a cheap imitation of the great vision that their founder Walt Disney had. They are acting like a bunch of slick, stiff suits that no longer have the vision nor the magic that is Disney.>> <<The only problem seems to be the powers that be seem to only want to have Remember the Magic campaignes, while over looking what actually creates the Magic.>> I don't have anything at all to add. These words say it all and deserve to be repeated!
74	Bob Paris Thu 11/6/2008 1:01a	"I can only tell you that I feel like a cloud has lifted and whether that is reality or in my head or (most likely) a bit of both, it doesn't matter." Sir, I can tell YOU that here, even in Perth Western Australia, about as far away from the US as you can get, people seemed to be smiling a little bit more today. EVERYBODY I spoke with in the last 36 hours said how happy they were Obama was elected. I have been extremely down on the US for the last few years. I will admit that started after the '04 shame when the Monkey was re-elected. I actually felt let down by America. A lot of the rest of the world WANTS to like America. God knows I grew up idolizing it. Our faith had fallen because of the past eight years. People are feeling a whole lot better about the US right now. This is your opportunity. Do NOT mess it up.....for ALL of our sakes.
75	davewasbaloo Thu 11/6/2008 1:10a	>>>I have been extremely down on the US for the last few years. I will admit that started after the '04 shame when the Monkey was re-elected. I actually felt let down by America. A lot of the rest of the world WANTS to like America. God knows I grew up idolizing it. Our faith had fallen because of the past eight years.<<< Hey Bob, you are not alone. As an American, I felt that way too. And maybe WDW annoys me so much because it is surrounded by Bush's enclave.
76	Bob Paris Thu 11/6/2008 1:46a	Even though I was born in 1970, I have this incredibly strange feeling of deja vu back to the early '60's and Kennedy. You, handsome democrat with beautiful wife and young family, coming in with an incredibly positive attitude. It feels like Camelot is returning and that is compounded by the fact that not only do we lose the monkey in a few months, but, perhaps more importantly, we are also rid of the assorted machiavellian puppet masters surrounding him. It feels like a cleansing wave is sweeping through the White House and Palpatine is being thrown into the reactor core.
77	Bob Paris Thu 11/6/2008 1:47a	That should be "young" in the first line.
78	brerroadrunner Thu 11/6/2008 6:51a	Bob Paris-Why don't you go start a thread "why every one hates America". Bush is not the reason every other country hates America. 911 wasn't because countries hated Bush. The first WTC bombing didn't even occur in Bush's term. Now we have another President and First Lady who have no pride in what America stands for. Let's talk in four years when this country is really in bad shape. At least You won't be taxed to death! You might even have some extra dollars to visit WDW, because I know I won't! I know this isn't the popular view on this site, but I take my chances. At least we are still free to voice an opinion, for awhile.
79	davewasbaloo Thu 11/6/2008 6:58a	Hmmmm, do I answer or don't I? Gosh, I can't resist. There has always been some sentiments of anti americanism in the world, but as an American living in Europe, I can quite honestly say it has never been stronger than the last 8 years that crook has been on Penn Ave. >>>Now we have another President and First Lady who have no pride in what America stands for.<<< I would totally disagree. But then, that is freedom of speech. >>>Let's talk in four years when this country is really in bad shape.<<< Worse than now??? I hope not. California was feeling 2nd world on our last trip home earlier this year. >>>You might even have some extra dollars to visit WDW<<< Maybe, but I wouldn't spend them there when there are better Disney resorts around the globe to spend the cash. >>> At least we are still free to voice an opinion, for awhile.<<< Funny, I thought the Patriot Act coupled with Dixie Chicks gate took that away. I suspect people will be much more free to voice their opinions than the coming years. One can only hope.
80	brerroadrunner Thu 11/6/2008 7:04a	As far as the original start of this thread....We do not look at WDW from a firt time visiters eyes, and if we did, we would most likely see things so much differently. You would see all the magic that is still there. Since most of us have been numerous times, it does not have the same affect, and now you notice a whole lot more. After your initial viit, the second visit you see something you didn't the first time, and the same with your third visit, so by the time you visit as many times as Spirit, most magic has been experienced if not all, and the only things that really stand out are all the imperfections you didn't notice your first few times. People coming through the gates their first times still get that wonderful magical experience we all once had. I do not doubt things are not up to par as they used to be, I only started going in 95. Maybe Disney doesn't need the long time very frequent return guest who picks at everything. Maybe they just want to cater to all new people. Not really a smart business plan, though.

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