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| wahooskipper Mon 11/10/2008 5:29a | I'm going to agree with Splash and Tower of Terror. I might throw Soarin' in there too.
I also think Disney is under greater demand to "reinvent" itself these days. There is far greater competition. If video games aren't the mega hit that they are perhaps an attraction like Buzz Lightyear SRS does not get created.
I really enjoy Rock 'n Rollercoaster. Is it going to be a "classic". I don't know. Aerosmith and their popularity may or may not have something to do with that. |
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| vbdad55 Mon 11/10/2008 7:37a | <Now part of this I know vbdad will hate me for is what I call corporate rot. Very few thinks boards/committees do rival that of a visionary<
I couldn't agree more with you - what has to happen is the corporate board ( I have no love for any of them if I ever gave that impression, butI do understand what they face) - has to give 'responsibility and accountability' for this type of stuffto people who are or may be visionaries. Alot of this will be heeped on Lasseter. I hope he is upto it, he certainly seems like a good choice.
boards are not visionaries - no truer statement could be spoken...but I am more worried here about what will people do when they are given something. Will they turn there backs when the board opens upit's wallet for things like Mission Space ? Could it have been better themed etc.- you bet. But really, for the money spent it has been a bust - the question is why ? Is it because of the incidents ? Or is it because after riding a few times people get bored now.... |
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| vbdad55 Mon 11/10/2008 7:45a | <how many attractions at WDW that have opened since 1993 will be considered classics and have the possibility of being around in 40 years (like Mansion, Pirates, Peter Pan, Small World and even things like Dumbo and the WDW RR).
Sorry for the semi-hijacking but I think my question follows quite logically from yours.<
fits right in -
IMHO - Tower of Terror is and Everest likely is -- it drops off significantly after that
I like test track but I also realize a lot of people don't. Will it last 40 years - with some changes maybe. Mission Space - predict it will be gone before 40 year marker. |
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| Bob Paris Mon 11/10/2008 7:49a | "Well, we will see when Disney opens The Little Mermaid at DCA. It will be the fist stateside large scale Omnimover/AA old school type classic Disney attraction since EPCOT opened."
I had to re-read that sentence twice just to actually take that in.
That concept BLOWS my mind!
It is SO incredibly sad that that is true. |
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| wahooskipper Mon 11/10/2008 8:01a | You might have to consider the Great Movie Ride. While it isn't an Omnimover system it certainly is a cousin and it is a major AA player. |
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| davewasbaloo Mon 11/10/2008 8:01a | Well it is and it isn't. Omnimovers were used for Buzz and Nemo. AA heavy attractions include the Great Movie Ride and Dinosaur. Hoever, that is not a huge number.
For me the timeless attactions that may last built after Epcot are:
MK - Splash Mountain and although I hate it, Winnie the Pooh may count (maybe even Buzz)
Epcot - None I dare say (though kudos for trying Test Track and Mission Space which I think were attempts at the old school way of experimentation).
DHS - Tower of Terror and maybe the Great Movie Ride (if freshened).
DAK - Kilamenjaro Safari, Kali River Rapids, maybe Dinosaur and maybe EE.
DL - Indy (maybe), Pooh maybe
DCA - ToT, maybe Monsters Inc, Grizzly, maybe Screamin (though not for the reasons we love the classics).
However, notice all of these are either not suitable for the whole family or are toon related. And they are a very small group out of a large list of new creations.
It's very, very sad indeed. When comparing to the likes of the Jungle Cruise, PotC, IASW and HM, the only one I would put on a par is the safari.
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| davewasbaloo Mon 11/10/2008 8:02a | lol skip |
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| wahooskipper Mon 11/10/2008 8:06a | Yeah, and I forgot Pooh but that will stand the test of time. As long as their are children there will be fans of Pooh. (And there will be poo...for that matter.)
The Great Movie Ride could use a reinvention. I say keep the Wizard of Oz scene and then start from scratch with the rest. (I wonder if there is some type of clause in the contract with MGM concerning any redesign of that ride. That is the only thing that I can think of that might prevent them from going forward on that.) |
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| davewasbaloo Mon 11/10/2008 8:27a | Noooo,keep Singing in the Rain and Mary Poppins too!!! |
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| wahooskipper Mon 11/10/2008 8:28a | Ok..for you dave...fine. Actually, with today's technology I think that could make Mary Poppins even better. |