Disneyland General
Topic: Length of Time Factor

#	Author	Message
21	monorailblue Wed 12/17/2008 7:51p	See, that's different that something empirical like I described before. I'm questioning it, because "the thing they like the most" cannot be quantified in any definitive manner by surveying Guests. Stopping people at random, usually disqualifying those who hold Annual Passports, and not questioning minors (they don't quiz kids), means that the survey might be useful, but doesn't reveal some kind of truth. Also, Paul Pressler "said" it once "several years ago" isn't helpful, either. Data that I'd rather have: Which FastPass Attractions "sell out" earliest, on average? Which Attraction has the highest percentage of "unique" passengers each day? (That is, as a percent of passengers, which Attraction has the highest number that only board once in the day?) Related, which has the lowest--that is, the highest number of repeat riders each day? But as I pointed out, there's no available, credible information that can account for capacity fluctuations (some Attractions open and close with lower capacity), etc. Anyway, for all those who wish to maintain that the length of time factor is totally irrelevant, that's fine. I just wondered what people think. Reasoned thinking is most interesting to me, but may not appeal to everyone.
22	SpokkerJones Thu 12/18/2008 12:44a	The length of an attraction is pretty irrelevant to me. It seems that whatever time it takes to get the ride's point across is how long it should last. However, the upper limit would probably be restricted by cost and practicality. The lower limit would probably be greater or equal to 3 minutes because people don't like waiting an hour for an experience that lasts 60 seconds.
23	SpokkerJones Thu 12/18/2008 12:49a	The length of the experience for some attractions is difficult to define however. Taking my favorite attraction ever, The Haunted Mansion, as an example, approaching the gates and entering through them is part of the experience. Surely, at least part of standing in line is part of the experience. The foyer. The elevator. The hallway with the creepy portraits. Exiting the attraction is also an experience in this example. "Hurry back..." And then there's the actual experience of sitting in a Doombuggy and viewing the show. I think those are my favorite types of attractions, where the guest is engaged at every opportunity, from the approach, the line, the pre-show, the actual ride, and the post-show. And if you can roll the pre-show into the line (some of it anyway), then great. Indy also comes to mind.
24	Walter Elias Thu 12/18/2008 11:15a	I think the length of a ride adds to the experience. After waiting in a long line, I certainly appreciate being able to sit and enjoy a ride for more than 2-3 minutes. It makes it more worth while. When I first get on a ride, there is an initial several seconds where I am glad to have finally made it through the line, I'm excited about what is yet to come, and I become better acclimated. Then, I can sit back, and immerse myself in the experience. For a 2 minutes ride, it would be half over by then. Beside that, I've never been as much into thrill rides as I have been the themed fantasy rides.
25	Hans Reinhardt Thu 12/18/2008 1:08p	Also, Paul Pressler "said" it once "several years ago" isn't helpful, either. Well, whether Space Mountain is Disneyland's most 'popular' attraction or not isn't really important, since we all know that it is at least in the top 5 attractions at the resort. Likewise with Soarin'. Therefore, the point still stands that attractions don't need to be 10-15 minutes long to rank highly with park visitors.
26	monorailblue Thu 12/18/2008 1:29p	^^^ I never argued anything to the contrary. Please read post #1 more closely.
27	Hans Reinhardt Thu 12/18/2008 2:45p	My argument wasn't directed at you specifically, but rather to the notion that longer is better.
28	monorailblue Thu 12/18/2008 7:28p	Ah. Good. Let's start a longer is better thread, if desired. I was just thinking that one thing that sets Disneyland apart from so many other parks is that it has such a large number of rides that are so intensely immersive and are quite long--actually more than 5 minutes! Oh, wait . . . .
29	gadzuux Thu 12/18/2008 7:47p	Let's face it - sometimes attractions can be TOO long. Small world certainly qualifies for me. If I had a chance of ever liking that ride, they killed it by trapping me in there for fifteen solid minutes. By the time the boat gets back to the dock, I've had all that I can stand of 'small world'. I'd bet that longer attractions have proportionately more walk-outs too. 'One Mans Dream' comes to mind. People don't really know what they're getting into when they enter, and want out long before the lights go up. Also, it's not like anyone's going to walk out of faster attractions like TOT or any of the mountains - you're there for the duration, like it or not. So just like 'size doesn't matter', I think the same is true for the length of an attraction - it all depends on the attraction.
30	trekkeruss Thu 12/18/2008 10:40p	<<I was just thinking that one thing that sets Disneyland apart from so many other parks is that it has such a large number of rides that are so intensely immersive and are quite long--actually more than 5 minutes!>> IMO you're asking everyone to draw a conclusion based on a feeling... much like the surveys that you cannot accept. How can anyone possibly conclude that it is _the_ one thing that sets Disneyland apart? There is no way to prove it; it's just a part of a myriad of things that makes DL unique, such as AA's. You could also say AA's are the one thing that sets DL apart from the rest.

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