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Topic: 12/11: Suits in Tomorrowland...

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61	ArchtMig Sun 12/21/2008 12:51a	>>>And wasnt DCA mostly designed without WDI?<<< No, it was mostly designed by the less talented folks at WDI, led by the least talented lead design Imagineer they could have come up with, who bent to every demand made by Disney budgeteers, merchandizers, marketeers, and lawyers. What resulted just wasn't a very well designed THEME PARK.
62	dlkozy Sun 12/21/2008 10:35a	>>>"The buildings are all perfectly level and plumb, with sharply defined corners and regular rooflines. After that, Tony Baxter and others decided to try it again, but do it right this time, and the result was Disneyland's much more appropriately cartooney screwbally implemented Mickey's Toontown."<<< The problem that I have with this is-who was approving the plans as the project moved along? The finished project didn't just magically appear one day-someone had to have been overlooking the project to see if it was a Disney "fit" or not.
63	Dabob2 Sun 12/21/2008 11:14a	The AO or RJ's, or whatever you want to call it, belongs back on top of the PM platform. It was just waaay more fun up there. Hell, they still have the mechanisms, and if the platform can't stand the weight of the AO's sculptural elements, jettison them and have a new design like the RJ's, only different. That was a ride I enjoyed as a young adult, and would continue to enjoy. Not a major part of my day, but just a fun little trip that would a). take up zero footprint, b). open up the TL entrance. It's really kind of a no-brainer, except of course that it does involve some expense compared to leaving the AO where it is. But the RJ's were so much better. I'd ride them as an adult - for the views of TL as much as for the ride. On the AO, half your view is of the castle and the hub, rather than TL. That's just wrong.
64	gadzuux Sun 12/21/2008 12:52p	It's not doing the castle and the hub any favors either. It seriously detracts from them both.
65	dlkozy Mon 12/22/2008 9:40a	For me, that ride just blocks the walkway and looks uninviting. It is the one ride that my kids never ask to ride.
66	Hans Reinhardt Mon 12/22/2008 10:28a	"They did that once. All of the buildings from WDW Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland were designed by the architectural firm of Welton Becket and Assoc. And they sure do look like it. They are firmly rooted in the 1960s style era from which they were born." At the time that Tomorrowland was far better than either of the current messes at WDW and DL.
67	ArchtMig Mon 12/22/2008 3:10p	re: Post #62 above. Each of the parks are somewhat autonomous, and they are run by their own individual managements. WDI is not able to force new attractions on the parks. WDI always has to "sell" the individual park managements on WDI's ideas and proposals, and management has to buy off on them. The park managements are responsible for each of their own budgets. If management wants something, they are free to go to outside vendors apart from WDI to get those things. I'm pretty sure Mickey's Starland was one of those instances. During times when the parks a being run by numbers-only guys who have no sensitivity towards or caring for first rate aesthetic and design issues, then second and third rate stuff is the result.
68	disneysnout Mon 12/22/2008 4:07p	Because one family has kids that dont like that ride doesnt mean all kids avoid that ride, just look at the line for the ride.

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