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Topic: DLR Casting Center - No Longer Hiring?

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VanFrance2009
Sun 1/11/2009 2:31p
<<In any case, the moral of the story is to stay in school.>>

And here is where we can completely agree.

I do believe that the Disneyland Resort has great opportunities for 18 to 21 year olds for a first or second job. But if you are in your late 20's or early 30's, and you are applying for an entry level job anywhere, you might want to take a look in the mirror and ask how you got into that position.

VF
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TMICHAEL
Sun 1/11/2009 2:50p
>>>> But the macro view tells us that by developing a system that allows Attractions Cast Members to get the same amount of breaks as the rest of the Cast Members, the Company had righted a wrong that had been in place since the Park opened. Let me be clear here, nobody deserves more breaks than anyone else. Nobody. All of the Cast works hard and all deserve to have a break every two hours. No more, no less<<<<

I had to stop reading and respond to this one. Sorry if someone else already chimed in.

You are 100% incorrect and I'll site one personal case but could go for many more. I started my Disneyland employ on the Davey Crockett Explorer Canoes and sorry but in no way shape or form is working 2 hours on Canoes the same as 2 hours on the Mark Twain or running Country Bear Jamboree. Shall I go on....
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gottaluvdavillains
Sun 1/11/2009 3:07p
<<But if you are in your late 20's or early 30's, and you are applying for an entry level job anywhere, you might want to take a look in the mirror and ask how you got into that position.>>>

Why? I am in my 40's married in N.CA my DH makes enough for me to be a stay at home mom for the past 17 years.
If I lived in S.CA I would apply for a job at DL.

Some people like working in that industry - they enjoy helping others have a magical experience and some just love being at DL.

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VanFrance2009
Sun 1/11/2009 3:36p
All I wrote was "take a look and ask how you got into that position."

When you looked at yourself in the mirror, you came up with an acceptable answer for you.

I think there are many others that get into this situation, they blame others or a Company instead of accepting responsibility for choices made early in their adult life.
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VanFrance2009
Sun 1/11/2009 3:58p
<<I had to stop reading and respond to this one. Sorry if someone else already chimed in.

You are 100% incorrect and I'll site one personal case but could go for many more. I started my Disneyland employ on the Davey Crockett Explorer Canoes and sorry but in no way shape or form is working 2 hours on Canoes the same as 2 hours on the Mark Twain or running Country Bear Jamboree. Shall I go on....>>

I'm actually correct on this and it is something that you could look up.

It is in the Cast Member contract.

If Canoe Cast Members deserved more breaks or lunches than any other Cast Member, it would be in the contract.

It's not.

Is it hard work? Yes.

Do other Cast Members outside of attractions have roles that are equally as difficult or even harder? Yes.

I'm sorry, TMichael. I'm not wrong about this.

Cast Members that are covered by a collective bargaining agreement have their allotted breaks and lunches determined by this.

VF
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Jim in Merced CA
Sun 1/11/2009 4:04p
TMICHAEL -- I started my Disney employ at Walt Disney World at the Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes at WDW.

I had just graduated from college -- I looked in the mirror and said 'Hey there handsome!'
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TMICHAEL
Sun 1/11/2009 4:23p
LOL, me too Jim! In fact I still say it. (actually, I started my freshman year but HI BROTHER)

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Lisann22
Sun 1/11/2009 4:41p
LOL guys! ;>
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monorailblue
Sun 1/11/2009 7:02p
It is always interesting to be in the midst of a firestorm of posts. Doesn't happen to me very often.

One reason Attractions Cast Members had more breaks is because they, unlike virtually any other Cast Members, take people's lives into their own hands all day long. That is also one reason why rotations developed--and, until CDS, Attractions CMs moved positions every 15-30 minutes (or more frequently). Just an observation--which may not need to have been made--I didn't read through all the posts. Sigh.

Changes in breaks and meals is more a direct result of unbelievably strict CA labor laws than collective bargaining, though both obviously impact the workday. CA laws are at the point of ridiculousness. Example: in a non-exempt position, when a meal break is mandatory, the employer cannot EVER refrain from giving a meal break, even when the employee--a sentient, free thinking adult--agrees to forgo a meal break.

Suppose a Cast Member writes the following: "Let it be known to all the world that on this day, when I happen to be scheduled just barely long enough that I am entitled to a mandatory, uninterrupted, unpaid meal break of 30 minutes, I choose, happily, cheerfully and willingly and knowing all my legal rights and entitlements to forego that right today (and today only) because I'm not hungry and not tired, and, for crying out loud, I am a freaking adult and am not being oppressed by my employer. Love and Kisses, Cast Member." Supposing she then has 17 witnesses sign an attestation that the Cast Member declared the foregoing to be true and correct, and they signed the attestation under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California. Supposing they all did this before a busload of Superior Court judges and a busload of nuns. Suppose that Disneyland then says to the Cast Member, "Thanks!" and let's the Cast Member actually forgo a lunch period.

Guess who has an absolute, strict and indefensible liability to the Cast Member? Disneyland. That is how absurd it has become. When Arnold asks for concessions in labor laws and regulations to encourage business growth and development, he's actually (somehow) on to something super important. The scenario I've painted doesn't protect a worker--it severely impairs the right to contract. Any break/meal period laws should always allow for a knowing waiver. You can waive your right to a speedy trial, to a jury trial, to have an equal distribution of your property upon dissolution, your right to an attorney, your right to inherit, etc., etc., etc. But you have no right at all to skip a lunch--even if it is better for you and or your employer on a particular day. LUNACY!

Which is a bit off our topic, but I'm sure you didn't mind.

:O)
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SpokkerJones
Sun 1/11/2009 7:10p
Should a meal period ever be mandatory? Even when you're working overtime? When you're working with heavy machinery? I mean, you gotta eat sometime or you risk becoming too fatigued to perform.

I don't want my bus driver driving for eight hours without having something to eat.

I can see people foregoing lunch during a long shift in order to make an extra 9 bucks for the hour to the detriment of the safety of guests. You work eight hours, you eat.
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