Disney Animated Films
Topic: UP is Disney/ Pixar’s first DUD

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111	mawnck Fri 6/12/2009 2:09p	>>My guess is that the balloons were all in the backyard being held down by tarps or something. Did all of the balloons come out of the chimney?<< Yep, tarp behind the house. I was paying attention to that, because I wondered the same thing. How he got the strings threaded through the chimney I guess we'll never know. Carl also has a flair for the dramatic, since it would've taken some extra ingenuity to have the whole thing deploy simultaneously like that. By the way ... http://www.slate.com/id/2219775/
112	alexbook Fri 6/12/2009 2:18p	I like that link. Thanks for posting that. :-)
113	crazycroc Sat 6/13/2009 7:57a	Btw, I was being serious about not liking it. I just didn't enjoy this one. I'll try it again on DVD and see if I was just having a bad day. I really found this one heartbreaking, not uplifting, so perhaps I should go to get some therapy. I didn't think it was too violent or unbelievable. Just sad.
114	alexbook Sat 6/13/2009 12:12p	It's funny how different things bother different people: I just saw "The Rocketeer" for the first time this morning, and I glossed right over most of the scientific, engineering, and aviation goofs that other people complained about. OTOH, the political anachronisms bugged the heck out of me, especially the Nazi cartoon that showed how Germany was going to use the jetpacks conquer America. Anybody seeing that movie and not knowing their history would think that Germany had already conquered Europe in 1938, and was on the verge of war with the U.S. (Then there's the Nazi agent who speaks perfect English until he's unmasked, and has a silly German accent afterwards.)
115	alexbook Sat 6/13/2009 12:13p	...jetpacks *to* conquer...
116	basil fan Sat 6/13/2009 12:18p	Right, croc. It's okay to not like it. (Is there a film that everybody on earth likes? Don't think so.) I don't like Nemo. I mean, really, really don't like it. But of course, if you give a reason for disliking it that doesn't fly with those who liked it, that is cause for rebuttal. >I can't imagine the kind of nitpicking that it takes to notice something like that I can tell you from experience that most nitpickers don't sit there looking for mistakes, they just see them. The same way some viewers see the backgrounds that others ignore. I am one of those people. I spot new mistakes on nearly every viewing of a film, and notice plot inconsistencies. But I'm always leery of someone who dislikes a movie because of a few mistakes. Usually there are just as many in the films they enjoy (Wall*E had some doozies). My brother didn't like Aladdin the first time he saw it because it had "too many impossible things in it." "Like what?" says I. "Like when Abu jumps off Aladdin's shoulder to confront the guards with a sword, then 2 seconds later, he's caught up to Al." "Uhhh..." Yes, I thought that was too nitpicky a reason to dislike the film. The same thing happened when Atlantis premiered. Those who hated it cited what I thought were absurd reasons: stuff like 'how did they fit all that equipment in one transport sub?' It's okay not to like the movie, like if you hate science-fantasy or comic books, but come on. P.S. That link to the dropped sub-plot explains a lot. There really was a fountain of youth for ol' Muntz. And now we know.
117	basil fan Sat 6/13/2009 12:24p	>(Then there's the Nazi agent who speaks perfect English until he's unmasked, and has a silly German accent afterwards.) The same thing happened on an episode of Get Smart. Max asks him why he suddenly has an accent. The bad guy's reply: "Before, I had accent. Now I talk right." BTW, I'll tell you what bothered me about Up. I can't bear the fact that Carl lost all his possessions. I could bear losing a house, but he didn't even save one photo of his wife. Or that Mary Blair picture she painted. Or her Adventure album. Even his meds--do you know how much they cost? And when I saw him toss the Victrola out, I think I actually said "oh, no" out loud. I know, I know, the point of the film was for him to stop living in the past and clinging to all those things and becoming a hermit. But that radical of an amputation was too much for me.
118	mawnck Sat 6/13/2009 12:53p	>>And when I saw him toss the Victrola out, I think I actually said "oh, no" out loud.<< See? We do agree on something. :-)
119	crazycroc Sat 6/13/2009 7:58p	Also, could someone clarify what the message of this film was supposed to be? If you have dreams, and don't accomplish them, it's okay, just hang out with a fat kid instead?
120	mawnck Sat 6/13/2009 8:20p	>>Also, could someone clarify what the message of this film was supposed to be?<< From the comments, I believe the message that most viewers took home with them was "Squirrel!" :-D

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