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Topic: Los Angeles To Ban Declawing Cats

#	Author	Message
1	SingleParkPassholder Fri 11/6/2009 2:21p	http://cbs2.com/local/Cat.Decl...091.html I don't know if WE is the proper place for this, but here goes. I think this ordinance is wrong. I've owned two cats in my life, one for 14 years, the other is now 12 1/2. Both were declawed. One I got because a kid came to the door with the kitten in a box, hoping someone would take it, and the other came from a shelter. At the time I adopted them, the respective landlords/management companies made declawing a requirement if a cat were to live there. Neither of my cats have ever shown any form of discomfort, disability or abuse as a result of being declawed. They've led perfectly happy, normal, adjusted lives (as much as any cat does that). This ordinance is a huge overreaction to some special interest lobbying. It is not torture, it is not disfigurement, it is not cruel. Moreover, it does not leave then defenseless. Cats fight by rolling over on their backs and using their back claws. Back claws are not declawed. In order to avoid being wildly hypocritical, I would fully expect anyone in favor of this ordinance to also be against tail bobbing on dogs, neutering, spaying, circumsion of baby boys, rhinoplasty, false eyelashes, tattoos, face lifts, hair coloring, liposuction, vasectomies, tubal ligation and breast implants.
2	SingleParkPassholder Fri 11/6/2009 2:21p	Seriously.
3	DAR Fri 11/6/2009 2:26p	Doin good ain't got no end.
4	gadzuux Fri 11/6/2009 4:20p	Hillary Clinton - of all people - came in for some heavy criticism when she had 'Socks' declawed. Her response was that the white house was filled with heirloom furnishings - chairs that belonged to Lincoln and such - and these took precedence over the clinton's personal pet. I fall somewhere in the middle. I had a cat for many years that wasn't declawed, and my furnishings took a beating because of it. I'm sympathetic to cat lovers who are opposed to declawing, but it's a decision that ultimately needs to be left up to the cat's owner. It's like abortion - if you don't approve of declawing, don't do it. But don't presume to tell other people what's best for them.
5	SpokkerJones Fri 11/6/2009 5:09p	Declawing is like amputation. Cats are certainly are good at adapting. So are people. "In order to avoid being wildly hypocritical, I would fully expect anyone in favor of this ordinance to also be against tail bobbing on dogs, neutering, spaying, circumsion of baby boys, rhinoplasty, false eyelashes, tattoos, face lifts, hair coloring, liposuction, vasectomies, tubal ligation and breast implants." Of the procedures listed, I am against everything but spaying and neutering pets (The claw on your cat won't reproduce an unwanted pet) and vasectomies (voluntary ones, of course!).
6	SpokkerJones Fri 11/6/2009 5:13p	"It's like abortion - if you don't approve of declawing, don't do it." Abortion is something you can voluntarily have done to yourself. While pets are considered property, there are also laws that protect them. You can beat up your chair, for example, but not your cat even though it's your property. There are alternatives to declawing such as Soft Paws: http://www.softpaws.com/ They require extra effort on your part, but you will be able to avoid ***amputating your cat's toes***.
7	SingleParkPassholder Fri 11/6/2009 5:54p	I don't see abortion as murder, and I also don't see declawing as amputation in the sense it leaves them crippled or without, either.
8	Princessjenn5795 Fri 11/6/2009 6:02p	My problem with declawing cats is that if they accidentally get outside they have no way to protect themselves against would be predators or even climb a tree to get away from them.
9	SpokkerJones Fri 11/6/2009 7:59p	"I don't see abortion as murder, and I also don't see declawing as amputation in the sense it leaves them crippled or without, either." Please enlighten us with your tales of being a cat without claws. Declawing is the last refuge of a lazy cat owner. There are several ways to stop a cat from messing with your furniture. Spray it with a water bottle. Temporarily put double-sided tape on the furniture so that when they go to scratch they get tape on them and get all pissed off. Provide a scratching post. Use soft paws. Use that bitter apple crap. Hit them (oh wait, don't do that).
10	SpokkerJones Fri 11/6/2009 8:07p	Keep in mind that there is no standard procedure for this type of elective surgery. There are no standards on pain killers before, during or after the procedure. There are no standards on the tools used to perform the procedure. Whenever you put a cat under anaesthesia there is a chance something will go wrong. I have no idea why you would take that risk for what is a *elective* surgery to treat a cosmetic issue, largely, the destruction of your crappy furniture. Unlike a spay or neuter procedure there is no benefit to the pet itself. The only benefit is to you. Seems vain and callous to me.

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