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Topic: Becareful of cheap WDW Tickets

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Donny
Thu 2/9/2012 11:28a
I always wondered how those little booths were legal.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com...nt.story
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tashajilek
Thu 2/9/2012 3:29p
I dont get how these tickets would work? if you bought a new ticket that already had a few days used wouldnt the person have their finger print scanned? So wouldnt the second person not be able to get in the park once they scan their print?
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Donny
Fri 2/10/2012 3:53a
I wonder the same thing.

How long does the finger print scan last ?
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dagobert
Fri 2/10/2012 4:12a
What purpose does the fingerprints have?

In Paris Disney is not using the fingerprint, there they still use paper tickets. At first DLRP also used plastic cards, but with the opening of WDSP, they changed to paper tickets. Since the tickets are not personalized with fingerprints, it would be possible to sell the tickets.

I wonder if it would be possible for Disney to use the fingerprints in Europe, due to European Union Personal Data Law.
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Donny
Fri 2/10/2012 4:17a
I think biometric is to stop scalping of tickets I do wish as an AP holder I could get a plastic card.
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SeventyOne
Fri 2/10/2012 10:20a
Actually talked to a guy in this business one time in a sketchy I-Drive bar (yeah, not surprisingly he came across as a shady SOB).

The biometric scan is NOT a fingerprint--nowhere near that level of detail is recorded. It merely measures the length the finger, or the top section of the finger, or something like that. Supposedly--never tried this, no desire to, but this is what he tells his customers--you can "trick" it by jamming your finger toward the top. That assumes your ticket still has days on it, tho, which is the #1 reason I would never even bother with this.

I am shocked how brazen these places are. A couple on 192 even have little permanent kiosks. I mean, can you imagine a gift shop with a banner saying "Pot Sold Here"? Same idea basically.
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SpokkerJones
Fri 2/10/2012 11:47a
Any physical product you buy can be resold for whatever you are willing to sell it for and whatever another person is willing to pay for it. I have a table and I can give it away or attempt to sell it.

Why, then, are park/sports/concert tickets so important that the government has to get involved?

It sounds to me like big companies lobby the government for special privileges.
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SuperDry
Fri 2/10/2012 12:13p
<<< The biometric scan is NOT a fingerprint--nowhere near that level of detail is recorded. It merely measures the length the finger, or the top section of the finger, or something like that. >>>

That's outdated information. Years ago, WDW had finger geometry scanners, whereby you put your index and middle fingers into the scanner and it measured the length of your fingers.

These were replaced a few years ago with optical fingerprint scanners. Although it's true that they don't store an actual image of your fingerprint in the sense of what might look like a photograph, they do harvest enough information to differentiate your fingerprint from all others to a very high degree. So, the scanner knows to a very high degree of certainty whether subsequent users are the same person as the original - much more so than the old geometry scanners.

<<< Supposedly--never tried this, no desire to, but this is what he tells his customers--you can "trick" it by jamming your finger toward the top. >>>

Such tricks simply won't work with the modern optical fingerprint scanners they use today.
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tashajilek
Fri 2/10/2012 12:18p
My husband accidentally used a different finger then what was originally scanned and he had to try again. If it is a hard system to trick how are prople buying cheap tickets and getting in?
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SuperDry
Fri 2/10/2012 12:18p
<<< How long does the finger print scan last ? >>>

I can't see why they'd not keep it for the life of the ticket, which for many tickets is "forever" until all the days are used. It's a relatively small amount of data.

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