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Disneyland General
Topic: Wither Rivers of America?

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phruby
Tue 11/27/2012 7:35a
An interesting point was brought up about Tokoyo pulling out their Rivers of America for Carsland.

Considering the low ride capacity of this area verses the size, would you support the removal of Disneyland's Rivers of America for something on the scale of Carsland? Maybe it could be fully realized Western River Expansion or something completely different?
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Manfried
Tue 11/27/2012 8:39a
Maybe they should put on their Imagineering caps and make it a more fun an interesting attraction. It's a great setting, but needs a serious re-imagining.
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Jim in Merced CA
Tue 11/27/2012 8:46a
At Disneyland, the Rivers of America is one of those places in the park that a guest can escape from the hustle & bustle of walkways. By the time you get to the back side of the river, I really feel like I'm in another world. Relaxing and beautifully designed.

I would miss it if it was replaced with a giant block of anything.
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DyGDisney
Tue 11/27/2012 9:28a
I agree with Jim. It's peaceful and relaxing, and fits well with the theme. My kids still love visiting the island, even at 12 and 15, and we always go on the canoes when they are open.
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leemac
Tue 11/27/2012 10:13a
<<An interesting point was brought up about Tokoyo pulling out their Rivers of America for Carsland.>>

This is another example of Lutz going 2+2 = 5.

OLC executives are regularly out in CA visiting DLR, the Studios and WDI. It is only natural that they would be looking at everything new.

There is virtually no chance of TDL switching out its entire Frontierland for Cars Land. It won't happen. Lutz has grasped that as he thinks it is the only appropriate landmass available for the concept. There is no truth in that whatsoever. Not one iota.

OLC have been looking at various options to expand TDS on to the parking lot behind Lost River Delta. That is the only major land pad that is available.
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leemac
Tue 11/27/2012 10:17a
<<Considering the low ride capacity of this area verses the size, would you support the removal of Disneyland's Rivers of America for something on the scale of Carsland? Maybe it could be fully realized Western River Expansion or something completely different?>>

The capacity isn't an issue - the whole ambience of the land and NOS is provided by the RoA. It is imperative that it is kept. I would wager that TDA would never give up Fantasmic! either.

One day I might understand the fans' obsession with WRE. It just won't die.
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phruby
Tue 11/27/2012 10:20a
What's the difference between ditching Rivers of America/BT Ranch and ditching Autopia/Subs for something large scale and just as immersive?
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phruby
Tue 11/27/2012 10:22a
I'm sure Fantasmic! would be better integrated into the new infrastructure.
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leemac
Tue 11/27/2012 10:27a
<<What's the difference between ditching Rivers of America/BT Ranch and ditching Autopia/Subs for something large scale and just as immersive?>>

IMHO a lot. Autopia and Subs use up a tremendous amount of real estate - RoA is a respite from the hustle bustle of the rest of the park. It adds kineticism to the land with the water vessels and provides a barrier to the concrete mass of the rest of the park.

I've no issue with BTR being replaced - and it is only the corporate rentals that is preventing TDA from pulling the trigger on its removal.
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tonyanton
Tue 11/27/2012 10:50a
I would think another (better?) option in Tokyo would be to replace Toontown and take over some surface parking space beyond, though Toontown is very popular in Japan from what I've seen.

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