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leobloom
Thu 12/13/2012 10:10a
Mr. Toad isn't a trip through the movie's scenes, is it?
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Jim in Merced CA
Thu 12/13/2012 10:18a
For me, "it's a small world" is a totally different type of experience than a 'Mr. Toad' or 'Pinocchio' or 'Peter Pan.'

From a presentation perspective, it's okay to me that the lights, ceiling and inner-workings can be seen in 'it's a small world' -- it's that type of show.
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Dr Hans Reinhardt
Thu 12/13/2012 10:25a
"Mr. Toad isn't a trip through the movie's scenes, is it?"

Who knows. Has anyone actually scene the movie? I'm serious.
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Dr Hans Reinhardt
Thu 12/13/2012 10:26a
"From a presentation perspective, it's okay to me that the lights, ceiling and inner-workings can be seen in 'it's a small world' -- it's that type of show."

Yep, and that's exactly how I see Mermaid. I agree, though, that there should be more characters in the under the sea scene.
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HokieSkipper
Thu 12/13/2012 10:38a
<<I'm trying to figure out how this description is any differs from any other popular Disney dark ride, particularly the much beloved Mr. Toad, which is nothing more a bunch of nicely done glow in the dark cardboard cutouts and sound effcts.>>

IMO, the classic dark rides are more frenetic in their pace, more intimate in their scale, and the quick pace adds to the interest of the ride. There's just a lot more fun to be had on them then on Mermaid.

Mermaid tries to be them, while also trying to be a knockoff Haunted Mansion, and fails at being good at either, IMO.
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Manfried
Thu 12/13/2012 11:07a
<<Not not true. Splash opened in March of 1984, and Eisner was named CEO that September (after months of behind the scenes maneuvering). According to Tony Baxter and other Imagineers involved in the design of the attraction, Eisner repeatedly insisted that the film should be promoted in the attraction.>>
That is re-invented history. Though Eisner did want it to have the word "ride" in the title.
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leobloom
Thu 12/13/2012 11:23a
I've seen the Mr. Toad movie and the ride is merely inspired by the film - same characters but it doesn't retell the story. There's no scene in hell, for instance. There's a courtroom scene (the judge is in the ride) and the bartender is a character who is called to testify against Toad. Anyway, point being that Mermaid is far more literal in its retelling.
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Kar2oonMan
Thu 12/13/2012 11:39a
I prefer the non-linear rides vs. the "let's try and retell the whole story ride in 2 minutes using a few key scenes" kind. I think they have a much longer shelf life and aren't dependent on seeing the source material to understand it. Mr. Toad is the perfect illustration of this.

Monsters Inc. is the opposite. I enjoy the ride and they did some really clever effects in it, but I always wonder what someone who hasn't seen the movie would think of it.

I think in general, Disney does a good job of designing most attractions so that they work for people who haven't seen the movie. Hopefully if Avatar happens, they'll start out from that perspective.
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Dr Hans Reinhardt
Thu 12/13/2012 11:45a
"IMO, the classic dark rides are more frenetic in their pace, more intimate in their scale, and the quick pace adds to the interest of the ride. There's just a lot more fun to be had on them then on Mermaid."

I agree with your assessment. Riders on Toad or Snow White play a more active role in the storytelling than Mermaid, a difference which adds a level of enjoyment that Mermaid lacks. Still, as far as overall ride design and showmanship goes, I prefer Mermaid over any of the traditional Fantasyland dark rides.

Now I'm wondering what the opinion would be of a Disney newbie, say a family of four with young children who are unfamiliar with Disney parks, their history, or background knowledge. I'm not really trying to make a point; with so many varied opinions among fans I'm genuinely curious to know what the general perception of Mermaid from the average guest who isn't a frequent visitor.
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Kennesaw Tom
Thu 12/13/2012 12:07p
<<Who knows. Has anyone actually scene the movie? I'm serious.>>

I own the movie on DVD. I think Mr Toad is suppose to be going through the book. But, yes it does feel like you are going through a very abreviated version of the movie.

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