|11||Jim in Merced CA|
Fri 12/7/2012 10:24a
|<What is James Cameron thinking in that picture?>|
"Where will be find all the tiny little people to inhabit this tiny little land?"
Fri 12/7/2012 10:38a
|Couple friends are saying .. It's quite possible this entire announcement was so knee-jerk-reaction to Potter in Uni Orlando ... that they whole idea in itself is so "smoke and mirrors" ... We wouldn't doubt the whole announcement fades away .. and forgotten! |
Since then ... Lucasfilm has been purchased. And we think something Star Wars related could hit the Hollywood Studios park. Think about it - a continuation of a Star Wars theme ... where Star Tours currently sits.
All guessing. Of course.
But my gut feeling ... a Star Wars area in some park, has more impact than Avatar.
Fri 12/7/2012 11:48a
|You can almost hear the announcement already.|
"Walt Disney Imagineering is constantly dreaming of new ideas that will bring magic to our theme parks. However, sometimes real world considerations impact how many of those wonderful plans we can actually build at one time. Avatar is a wonderful world and we were excited to have guests visit, but we could not ignore the impact and adoration our fans have for the Star Wars franchise. Many of our own Imagineers have dreamed about visiting Tatooine or the forest moon of Endor since they were children. So Avatarland is kaput, welcome Star Wars land."
And then they can use history to show how this is no big or new thing for Disney because once upon a time Pirates in FL shoved Western River Expansion to the dustbin.
|14||Dr Hans Reinhardt|
Fri 12/7/2012 1:01p
|"Couple friends are saying .. It's quite possible this entire announcement was so knee-jerk-reaction to Potter in Uni Orlando..."|
I can buy that the release of this image was designed to give the impression that the project is running along smoothly to quell rumors that the project has been plagued with problems. However, the idea that this bit of awkward marketing has anything to do with Disney looking over its shoulder at Uni and HP is complete BS in my opinion.
Fri 12/7/2012 1:10p
|How embarrassing for Orlando management that they felt they had to stoop this low. |
This picture is absolutely nothing, and it's all they had to talk about. It's a table full of carved green Styrofoam blocks, with nothing there except... Styrofoam hills. If you squint you can kind of make out a little Styrofoam snack bar by Staggs elbow. Or maybe it's a Styrofoam DVC cart?
And James Cameron and the Plaid Shirt guy look photoshopped in. And there's absolutely no opening date, nor even a hint at a basic timeline for anything.
Very, very odd that they would even release this photo. It casts more doubt on the entire project than if they had just said Avatarland was still in development and not released any image of anything.
|16||Dr Hans Reinhardt|
Fri 12/7/2012 1:51p
|"If you squint you can kind of make out a little Styrofoam snack bar by Staggs elbow. Or maybe it's a Styrofoam DVC cart?"|
Fri 12/7/2012 3:04p
|I agree that they're really not doing themselves any favors with this image. If they wanted to convincce us that they were serious about this project, they should show a drawing, rendering, ANYTHING that actually showed something, and say that the plans had changed from that. All this model shows is some basic grading and landscaping, plus a couple huts that look like they were taken from Epcot's African Outpost. I would have believed them more if they just had one of the sugar coated people at the Blog make another meaningless post to remind everybody that it's still in development.|
How long has it been since they announced it? Close to 2 years, right? If we don't see anything of substance in the next 3-4 months, I think that they'll have to officially call off the charade.
|18||Dr Hans Reinhardt|
Fri 12/7/2012 3:35p
|Ferret, you raise an important question: how do we even know that the model on the table and rendering in the background is Avatarland? |
OK, I'm starting to sound like a Disney conspiracy theorist.
Sat 12/8/2012 2:36a
|That flat expanse of green Styrofoam they call the Avatarland "model" looks a lot like every other model of every other Disney theme park project. |
Except for this model, they have removed all of the buildings, structures and man-made facilities and just left the barely sloped flat Florida swampland as represented by the green Styrofoam.
They did leave that little snack bar in the corner by Staggs elbow though, just so we know they are serious about this Avatar project.
Sun 12/9/2012 11:32a
|I'm totally perplexed as to why Vaughn chose that particular image. I was trying to rack my brain as to when I first saw it and it was definitely in the summer.|
The "What's Next?" was cancelled when Media Relations realized that there was nothing to announce and felt the need to try and scramble something together which became this odd presentation. It would have made more sense just to cancel the whole thing.
I've lost count how many different incarnations of this stupid land have been milled in the shop. It doesn't seem to be any further advanced in the nearly three years since we first started working on it. It as always a knee jerk reaction to losing Potter and it still makes no sense whatsoever.
It definitely wasn't Photoshopped though. The lighting is particularly harsh due to the meeting room that is used at 1401F for these shoots.