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Topic: Latest: Is Disneyland Going to Go to a Hard Ticket Christmas Event Next Year?

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Mon 1/7/2013 8:31a
This topic is for Discussion of Latest: Is Disneyland Going to Go to a Hard Ticket Christmas Event Next Year?

From ScreamScape.com comes this rumor...

I’m hoping I’m wrong about this rumor, but according to a few sources 2012 may go down as the last year that Disneyland park guests will have access to all the special winter Christmas fireworks shows and parades for free. Instead, the resort is rumored to be switching to a series of upcharge hard-ticket events for Christmas 2013, following the business model of Walt Disney World’s “Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party” nights where all guests (even passholders) pay prices up to $40 for an aproximate 4-hour private Christmas themed night in the park. This will be handled in similar fashion to Disneyland’s Halloween-Time hard ticket event.


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Dr Hans Reinhardt
Mon 1/7/2013 9:32a
Sounds like a good idea to me.
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ksargen
Mon 1/7/2013 10:01a
It's good and bad. Good, because it'll sort out some of the crowd issues, bad, because it'll cost folks more money for things they were used to getting in their base ticket.

I'm afraid to say that the add on events are the way of the future. The parks aren't getting any bigger, and from the crowd levels at various holidays, it's gotten really hard for some of us to enjoy it. If a hard ticket means fewer folks in the parks for the average day, and fewer days with insane crowding, I'm about to buy in. I've yet to buy a ticket for a hard ticket event, but I'm considering it, because it IS less crowded.

Given that crowd behavior has only gotten worse in the last 20-30 years, this may be the only way to have a safe, sane event anymore.
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mickeymorris1234
Mon 1/7/2013 10:02a
I like the idea. I only worry about people who pay full ticket prices and then get blindsided by this. Christmas at Disneyland is a staple for a lot of families during Christmas. I know it is a family tradition for my family. I'm the only AP in the family so this is like the only time that they get to come and I know non of them do research for their visits so if I didn't warn them, they would pay for a day ticket and then get kicked out just in time for the families favorite parts, the parade and fireworks show.

But if it makes the nighttime less crowded and so it makes the park enjoyable then great!

If they could do it so everyday is Christmas with the fireworks and everything and then on select days they do the hard ticket thing I'd be super happy. Just throw together a couple of dance party things and a new float during the parade just for the "party" and I think you could convince a lot of people to go to it. I know I would be there!
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leemac
Mon 1/7/2013 10:12a
<<The parks aren't getting any bigger, and from the crowd levels at various holidays, it's gotten really hard for some of us to enjoy it. If a hard ticket means fewer folks in the parks for the average day, and fewer days with insane crowding, I'm about to buy in. I've yet to buy a ticket for a hard ticket event, but I'm considering it, because it IS less crowded.>>

Personally I'd rather see more AP blockouts - even for premium passholders - during December than a hard ticket event.

Whatever DLR does to combat the overcrowding inside DL during December will be met with widespread outrage. I don't envy the City Hall CMs later this year if it does go hard-ticketed.
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CuriousConstance
Mon 1/7/2013 10:24a
I wonder if they would still do the light show on the castle a few times a night or if that would only be for the ticketed events?

Seems like they would at least keep things like that open to everyone, so there is still something "special" about visiting during Christmas time outside of the ticketed event times.
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Dr Hans Reinhardt
Mon 1/7/2013 11:09a
"Given that crowd behavior has only gotten worse in the last 20-30 years, this may be the only way to have a safe, sane event anymore."

Hard ticket NYE events were the norm for many years (since 1955?) until they dropped the practice some years ago. I posted elsewhere that it was a much more enjoyable experience when you had special entertainment and could navigate around the park without having to deal with this nonsense:

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CuriousConstance
Mon 1/7/2013 1:09p
Why do those people get to lay and sit on blankets for so long?

When I was there, wanting to sit on ground and wait for 20 minutes before fireworks start, CMs told us we had to stand while waiting, we weren't aloud to sit on ground.
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SingleParkPassholder
Mon 1/7/2013 1:30p
We did the hard ticketed Christmas in WDW around 2006, I think it was. What a letdown. The parade was the usual run of the mill, and they sold t-shirts they didn't sell during regular hours. That was it. Never again, we said.

As for DL, if they want to do something about crowds, how about if they don't cram so many into the place? ALL those people CAN'T be PAPers. Stop selling so many damn tickets and limit the capacity. They'll never do it, because like stopping the blanket people, that would make sense.
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Dabob2
Mon 1/7/2013 1:55p
Did the hard-ticket in WDW once. I'm totally not a parade guy, but we had a 5-year-old with us (DH's cousin's kid) and she was enthralled, so that made it kind of enjoyable. And the fireworks were good, if not as good as DL's, and it wasn't ridiculously mobbed. Other than that, I thought it was kind of a ripoff.

If DL does this, I hope they do it only a select number of nights. That way, a). they could see how it goes over and judge if it makes sense for the DL demographic without committing all of December to it if it doesn't work as intended; b). out-of-towners like us who might be in for 3-4 days could still have a couple of nights available to us on our hoppers instead of having to leave at 6:00 every night.

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