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Topic: Walt Disney's Original Plan for EPCOT

Sat 2/2/2013 5:30a
OK Disney Nerds ,this for you



Sat 2/2/2013 7:31a
Thank you for that I wonder what it would have been if they did just what Walt wanted. One the other hand Walt did change things all the time.
Sat 2/2/2013 9:18a
If Walt had gotten what he wanted for Epcot it probably would have lost massive amounts of money and bankrupted the Walt Disney Company. The "planned community" concept has been tried many times (on a smaller scale) throughout the United States (including at Celebration) and it has always failed.
Sat 2/2/2013 9:20a
One problem with creating the "community of tomorrow" is that it will eventually become the "community of yesterday" and no longer be a showcase for Disney. Not to mention that it could have become a money pit. Making EPCOT a theme park was probably the correct choice.
Sat 2/2/2013 2:01p
So I guess it is doomsville for that new planned community called GOLDEN OAKS at DisneyWorld.

I wish Doobie or Rebekkah would let us know more about living in Celebration since that was home for awhile(?). I have only been there once in 2001 for the holidays. Loked like a really cool town. Maybe it was too large of a concept. It does seem every city I visit now has many planned communities.
In my future I want to live in the domed community similar to the attraction Living with the Land at Epcot.It is brilliant. I also ventured into the home of the future tour at EPCOT and really was impressed.
Of course the futuristic home on the final stage at the Carousel of Progress is better than most of our homes even tho we complain about it constantly on LP.
Everytime the PeopleMover wizzes past the City of the Future at WDW I want to live in that city.
Anyway thanks Donny for the link...I will check it out now.
Sat 2/2/2013 2:07p
Just to let you know
Part 1 is 5 minutes
Parts 2 & 3 are almost 10 minutes long each.
Sat 2/2/2013 2:28p
Golden Oak doesn't really match my definition of a planned community. It is a high-end residential development with a very desirable (depending on your point of view) location. I was speaking of communities that are meant to be rather self-contained communities with not only residential properties, but also having retail, public services and schools all in a fairly walkable footprint.

I'm not a local so all I know is what I read. But what I've read indicates that while property values in Celebration have held quite well considering the beating most Florida properties took and has become a popular tourist attraction, the "planned community" aspects of it have been less successful.

If that is not the case, I would certainly appreciate know up-to-date information and details.
Sat 2/2/2013 3:11p
I realize it has had negative publicity in recent years. Just think there is always hope.
I recently visited family in Ventura, California and a brand new community complex has just been built and then I return home to Kansas and see the announcement by same planners for construction here with same details. I know they have completed these projects in Fort Worth and Southlake , Texas and San Antonio. I just googled planned communities and they are still the future...if you can afford it.
Sat 2/2/2013 3:58p
We are still talking about different definitions. South Lake is another high-end community... in fact one of the wealthiest in the United States. And yes, it was a "master planned" community which means that plans were carefully made by the city council and zoning officials to control lot sizes, land uses, and future development.

But that is still a whole different animal than what I am talking about. Southlake has been around a LONG time (incorporated in 1956) and has seen many different residential and commercial developers during that time.

I am talking more about situations like Celebration where basically all development is planned and controlled by a single entity... in this case the Walt Disney Corporation.
Sat 2/2/2013 4:21p
Sorry I thought Disney sold all interest. I did not know disney still had controlling monetary power.

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