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DCA, Future Expansion
Topic: Why is Disney's California Adventure a failure?

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ElKay
Tue 10/25/2005 1:49a
The issue regarding attraction sponsorship is IMO, not a major problem, it's very similar to waiting through commercials to see an episode of Lost.

From the prespective of guests, it's just a necessary "evil" that mostly goes un-noticed, however, is usually crucial to the very existance of the E-ticket rides what we all enjoy.

The real issue, again IMO, is the fact that DCA has really so few of them. Why isn't GRR sponsored by Patigonia or some other outdoors outfitter?

Don't forget that all of those empty storefronts in the SF block was supposed to have been filled with signature California businesses showing off their products.

I think DCA lacks sponsors and the resulting E-ticket rides is because Disney's corporate relations marketers had a real tough time signing up more than the tortilla and bread companies because of the lousy rep Disney developed under Eisner in the late 90's.

Wouldn't DCA be a more fun place if the locally famous candymaker See's Candies were favorible to sponsoring a factory tour that let guest make their own candies, just like that classic "I Love Lucy" episode? A candy factory would have blown the "masa" outta the tortilla factory any day of the week and weekends too.

DCA suffered from not only lack of imagineering, but bad relationships with potential sponsors.
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9oldmen
Tue 10/25/2005 7:27a
>>The 1950s certainly were a different era.<<

You need to keep repeating that statement to people who keep saying,"Well, even the original Disneyland wasn't perfect when it first opened".
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crapshoot
Tue 10/25/2005 7:43a
<<You need to keep repeating that statement to people who keep saying,"Well, even the original Disneyland wasn't perfect when it first opened".>>

Exactly.

It's too bad that DCA's authors were so blind to Disneyland's incredible history of growth and evolutionary changes for purposes of improving the "Show".

Instead of failing to reinvent the themepark experience, they could have simply started DCA from where Disneyland left off.

That would have been amazing.


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idleHands
Tue 10/25/2005 7:55a
"Instead of failing to reinvent the themepark experience, they could have simply started DCA from where Disneyland left off.
That would have been amazing."

OOOH! I love this idea!

I'd like to see this combined with my "Extreme Makeover:Theme Park Edition" plan.

Perfect!

"Bring in those fabulous bulldozers!"
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fkurucz
Tue 10/25/2005 12:15p
>>"Bring in those fabulous bulldozers!"<<

Dream on. It will never happen. What might happen is that over the years DCA might evolve away from the California them (Pixarland - be careful of what you wish for, you might get it).

I could see most of PP (except for Screamin'), being replaced in the future.
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RoadTrip
Tue 10/25/2005 12:40p
<<I could see most of PP (except for Screamin'), being replaced in the future.>>

I'm not so sure. How could they retain Screamin' without retaining the whole seaside amusement park thing? I think Disney needs to commit to the theme and go for it, rather than the kind of half-hearted stuff you see there today.

It's like Disney thought they needed an amusement park theme so they could install the spinners , but at the same time they weren't sure that the theme would be "hip and edgy" enough for the park they were creating.

So they created kind of a parody of an amusement park where all the hip and edgy folk would catch the inside joke and revel in the tackiness of it all... kind of like they do when they buy a bottle of Two Buck Chuck.

Disney's Boardwalk at WDW shows that you can take a theme similar to Paradise Pier and make it successful. The folks at DCA just didn't go far enough with it.

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BrnardM
Tue 10/25/2005 1:58p
<<So they created kind of a parody of an amusement park where all the hip and edgy folk would catch the inside joke and revel in the tackiness of it all... kind of like they do when they buy a bottle of Two Buck Chuck.>>

So you're saying that DCA is the Boones Farm on the theme park bar?
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idleHands
Tue 10/25/2005 2:12p
^^ LOL!!
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jaycub
Tue 10/25/2005 8:35p
I want to quote knoxvelor's statement in entry #2

<<Maybe part of the reason DCA is failing is from people not letting the subject die already.

How many movies have you passed up just because a someone said it wasn't any good?>>

AMEN!
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dshyates
Tue 10/25/2005 8:47p
<<Maybe part of the reason DCA is failing is from people not letting the subject die already.

How many movies have you passed up just because a someone said it wasn't any good?>>

Sorry, but that what happens when based on my previous experiences visiting Disney parks. I know they are worth taking your one week of vacation time and a couple of years of savings to fly across the country for a world class experience only to find a portable mad mouse coaster and a carnival swing. So how do they try and fix it? Balloon spinner and bumper cars? How FRICKIN' STUPID do they think I am.
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