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| idleHands
Wed 10/26/2005 7:53a | Excellent posts, crapshoot and WD! You've put your finger on the pulse of the problem with DCA. Well stated! |
392
| RoadTrip
Wed 10/26/2005 8:09a | DCA is not Disneyland (I knew Disneyland, and DCA, you are no Disneyland). ;-)
But I don't think it is intended to be. Just as Epcot, MGM and the AK at WDW are not expected to be the Magic Kingdom. They are different types of parks with different types of attractions.
Another issue people always bring up is that Disneyland has so many more enjoyable attractions. That is certainly true. Disneyland has more attractions than any other US Disney park (I can't comment on overseas parks because I've never been). But even at Disneyland when you get past the attractions that are truly extraordinary, much of what remains is pretty mediocre. The truly great attractions (in my opinion) are:
Jungle Cruise
Pirates
Splash Mountain
Big Thunder Mountain
Indiana Jones
Haunted Mansion
Space Mountain
Curious how that works out to be another "Sacred Seven", isn't it? When you get past that list you go downhill pretty quickly. The Fantasyland dark rides have a great nostalgia factor, but if Disney opened a NEW attraction that was no more sophisticated than they are it would be met with an enormous yawn (like Pooh was).
Honey I Shrunk the Audience was pretty enjoyable five years ago. Star Tours was pretty enjoyable 10 years ago. Much of the rest is filler to give you something to do during busy periods when the lines are really long for Sacred Seven.
Now I will certainly grant you that Disneyland's Sacred Seven are for the most part considerably better than DCA's Sacred Seven (although I think ToT competes with anything DL has). But as I said in the beginning... they are different parks; you would EXPECT the types of attractions to be different.
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393
| Darkbeer
Wed 10/26/2005 8:27a | >>Honey I Shrunk the Audience was pretty enjoyable five years ago. Star Tours was pretty enjoyable 10 years ago. Much of the rest is filler to give you something to do during busy periods when the lines are really long for Sacred Seven.<<
Interesting to note that RT is complaining about movie based attractions, and 3 and 1/2 of his DCA list is movie based...
Isn't Muppet*Vision older than HISTA???
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394
| RoadTrip
Wed 10/26/2005 9:03a | <<Interesting to note that RT is complaining about movie based attractions, and 3 and 1/2 of his DCA list is movie based...>>
My post stated that the Sacred Seven in DL are considerably better than the Sacred Seven at DCA. I see no inconsistency in my statements. I also would agree that Muppets is at the bottom of the Sacred Seven. Not that is a bad show; just that it is old enough that most Disney fans have seen it 20 times.
We probably should remember though that many Disney visitors are still FIRST TIME visitors. Many times those of us who visit frequently forget that something we have become bored with might be a really great attraction for the first timer.
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| crapshoot
Wed 10/26/2005 9:19a | <<Curious how that works out to be another "Sacred Seven", isn't it? When you get past that list you go downhill pretty quickly.>>
OK, then compare any one, you pick, darkride in Fantasyland and it will out perform the whole of It's A Bug's Land area.
Look, it's simple. Everybody reading this; How many times would you ride Peter Pan versus How many times would you ride Himlick's Chew Chew Train?
Right, there is no contest.
That's the point. The Emotional Qualities that even a pathetic little "C" attraction can generate is absolutely superior to that of any attraction in DCA.
And it is that Emotional Quotient that is missing from ALL of DCA. The best DCA can come up with is a Thrill Qoutient, and in a few cases it does that fairly well.
But it takes so much more than simple thrills to be successful. DCA is simply a sterile environment and a sterile experience.
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| RoadTrip
Wed 10/26/2005 9:26a | <<And it is that Emotional Quotient that is missing from ALL of DCA.>>
I don't think you can expect all Disney Parks to be the same. The "Emotional Quotient" is largely missing from Epcot too. That doesn't make it a bad park; it makes it a park that is different from the MK. I'm OK with that. If it were the same experience as what I got at the MK, why would I bother going there?
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| deadmentellnotales
Wed 10/26/2005 9:52a | <Soarin'
Screamin'
Animation Building
Muppets 3D
Tough to be a Bug
Grizzly River Run
Tower of Terror>
<That is a lineup of sever very impressive "major attractions>
maybe i'm a cynic but im not to impressed with tough to be a bug, and with the exception og the intro to muppets 3-d the attraction itself isn't that great, but overall thee rest of the list is spot on, it's just too bad that with the exception of these attractions, everything else (attractions) is just inferior to most amusement parks. |
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| deadmentellnotales
Wed 10/26/2005 10:01a | the sacred seven?
<Jungle Cruise
Pirates
Splash Mountain
Big Thunder Mountain
Indiana Jones
Haunted Mansion
Space Mountain>
how about
star tours
matterhorn
astro blasters
not to mention a wonderfull train ride, steamboat, pirate ship, or horse and buggy rides, what's more i find it curious that so many more people would prefer to just shop in DL than even visit DCA when your shops outperform a whole park you know your in trouble. |
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| RoadTrip
Wed 10/26/2005 10:13a | <<
how about
star tours
matterhorn
astro blasters>>
Star Tours: I mentioned that I though it was first rate 10 years ago, but not now.
Matterhorn: Should be on the list. I primarily go to WDW, so I forgot about Matterhorn.
Astro Blasters: I have no idea what that is. If it is like WDW's Astro Orbitor, it's nothing but a cheap carny spinner.
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| jaycub
Wed 10/26/2005 12:13p | <<That's the point. The Emotional Qualities that even a pathetic little "C" attraction can generate is absolutely superior to that of any attraction in DCA.>>
crapshoot, I love Peter Pan's Flight, but I would go on ToT and Soarin' more than I would that "pathetic little 'C' attraction."
You talk about emotional qualities as though they are unacheivable in DCA, but 20 years from now Disney fans may have a huge emotional attachment to the park.
The way I see it, people wrote off DCA because it wasn't the WESTCOT or Disney Seas parks that TDA was considering building, so because people got so attached to those ideas they immediately refuse to like anything in DCA.
It's not Disneyland, and right now we all have a strong emotional attachment to the park that Walt built, but that doesn't mean that DCA has to be written off. If you're really so concerned about the attractions in DCA not being as "timeless" as the attractions in Disneyland, ask yourself this: would I rather ride Winnie the Pooh, or Sorain'?
Road Trip is right, the park is something differenty, just like EPCOT, MGM, and Animal Kingdom. |
