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Topic: Eliminate paths between lands?

Fri 9/30/2005 5:20p
Back when Disneyland first opened, there were no paths between the various always had to go back to the hub. This situation obviously makes for more walking, but it does strengthen the separate identities of the various lands, which sometimes have gotten a bit muddled in the intervening years.

Obviously, they abandoned this concept for a reason, most likely crowd flow and congestion. But should Disney go back to this sort of configuration, at least for new parks where they could try and design around it? Would the benefits overcome the drawbacks?

Just curious.
Fri 9/30/2005 5:36p
"Would the benefits overcome the drawbacks?"

No, I don't think so. I see your point about the continuity issues, but the connecting paths were indeed put in for the reasons you mention. I think if new (Disneyland) parks should keep the hub / spoke setup, but make the outer connecting paths as discreet (and discrete) as possible.
Fri 9/30/2005 5:57p
<<"Would the benefits overcome the drawbacks?">>

I don't think so either. Animal Kingdom has that type of design, with only the path between Africa and Asia connecting any lands outside of the hub.

I love Animal Kingdom, and the layout possibly works in a park based on discovery. But frankly, it is kind of a pain in the butt getting around that park.
Fri 9/30/2005 6:32p
I vote *NO* on eliminating paths.
I love the paths at Disneyland. They are actually one of my favorite things. Yea, I'm easy to please. But I have found the paths to be really useful. There have been lots of times when its been really crowded and I've been able to pop thru one of the less used paths and *bam* I'm where I wanna be in no time. Great way to *impress* friends.

Juvenile pleasures aside, I think the paths are smart to have because they really do help with congestion/flow issues and they still keep the lands separate but create a more cohesive feel overall. I would be extremely frustrated if there were no paths. Extremely. It would seriously decrease my enjoyment of the park. Honestly, sometimes when it is really crowded I just take one of the lesser used paths just to take a breather from the crowds. I'd be totally bummed if there were no connecting paths.
Sat 10/1/2005 1:14p
I also love those paths. The nice thing for people who prefer the "hub" method of getting around is that there IS a choice! I usually use whatever way is expedient at the time, but sometimes those paths just make for a nice, less-traveled, calmer stroll.
Sat 10/1/2005 6:07p
Are you sure about that Gmaletic? I seem to remember back in the early days walking through Adventureland from the hub and continuing on through to Frontierland. I also thought you could always pass through from Fantasyland to Tomorrowland. But maybe I have a faulty memory.
Sat 10/1/2005 6:24p

If my assertion is true, I'm pretty sure that it was only true for the first couple of years Disneyland was open. That being said, I can't personally vouch for the fact that there weren't connecting paths between the lands, but I do remember reading something to that effect once before, and if you look at an early Disneyland map (and the model that's actually at Disneyland of the opening day layout), there don't -appear- to be any connecting paths.
Sat 10/1/2005 8:13p
Let's not forget something very important, too -- it's hard enough getting around during the parades and fireworks, and getting out of Frontierland after Fantasmic -- imagine how much worse it would be if everybody had to be bottlenecked through the hub.
Sun 10/2/2005 8:27p
I actually wish there was one more path! I think a route from Critter Country around the back side of Rivers of America to Thunder Mountain would be a great help.
Sun 10/2/2005 8:28p
Up until the time they removed the Nature's Wonderland area of Frontierland, there was no "back door" to Fantasyland.

After they built BTMRR, then they put in the trail that led to Fanstasyland.

Ever since the building of the Matterhorn there has been a path between Fantasyland and Tomorrowland.

The path from Adventureland to Frontierland was there from the beginnning - in fact, there was a bridge that went over a watercourse connecting the Jungle Cruise rivers to the Rivers of America (although JC boats could not be seen).

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