DCA, Future Expansion
Topic: February 8th, 2007 - DCA's 6th Anniversary

#	Author	Message
81	oc_dean Wed 2/14/2007 8:27p	Lets put this into a different perspective: Disneyland an established world class theme park from 1955. Low and behold ... Look what turns up in Florida in 1971 - A second "Disneyland". No one thought then they would get a second gate only 11 years later, that turns out to be a World Class establishment itself: EPCOT 8 years later ... a less ambitious, yet still very detailed THIRD gate prevails, and within it's FIRST SIX YEARS .. adds quite a few quality additions to establish it a worthy companion to it's first and second successors. Then we get word Eisner wants to build a Second Gate in Long Beach .. quickly turns to Anaheim all around 1989-1992. Disneyland Paris opens with much of the same tendor love as previous parks .... and then 6 years later, Animal Kingdom opens .. though a bit shy on attractions, the attention to detail is there!! That puts us now in 1998. You grow up ... seeing Disney at their best .. as they did solidly since 1955 ..... delivering one excellent park after another ...... You devote your life to ONLY the best theme parks this world can deliver. (Only Disney can do that!!) The anticipation high ... knowing that after one quality park after another ... Disneyland's first companion park HAS TO be a bonafide quality park! And this is what we get come 2001?! Well .... if I could pull the state of Florida, Tokyo DisneySea, and DLP closer to California ... I would have fairly easy access to these places. But .. I'm just an average citizen .. making an average citizen's salary. I'm sure that speaks for nearly everyone here. Unless you got money pouring out of your pockets. Disney didn't want to deliver in Anaheim, California ........ So if someone's going to tell me I shouldn't be pissed off ......... Stop and re-read what I just wrote!
82	Hans Reinhardt Wed 2/14/2007 8:28p	"What is particularly upsetting to many people is the great lost opportunity that DCA represents." Believe or not I can appreciate this sentiment. Yet, I am not outraged. It is a curious thing to me how passionate people can be about how "bad" they perceive DCA to be. These individuals did not build it, they did not contribute to its design, nor did they front one dime to construct it, yet they are upset or worse. It has been six years now and many of the same people who were mad then are mad now. Strange. Even weirder is the double standard many people possess in regards to the DL vs. DCA topic.
83	Hans Reinhardt Wed 2/14/2007 8:31p	"So if someone's going to tell me I shouldn't be pissed off" Pissed off? Why do you feel that you have the right to be "pissed off" about something that you didn't even contribute to? Don't you think that attitude is rather arrogant on your part? You don't own Disneyland. Seriously, I'm wondering why you feel this way.
84	oc_dean Wed 2/14/2007 8:32p	You wanna know how I just read that? The everyone on the planet should just accept mediocrity or less .. because that's just the way the world is. I don't have that kind of a value system Hans. Never will! It's people who hold a higher standard .. who give the world hope for becoming a better place with time.
85	oc_dean Wed 2/14/2007 8:34p	^^^^^ my post was in reference to #83 And Hans ... I just don't think you're going to quite understand what I'm trying to explain. So why don't we just agree .. that we both disagree on the subject of DCA .. and just leave it at that?. Okay? Thanks.
86	oc_dean Wed 2/14/2007 8:35p	I wish there was an edit feature. I meant that above post is to #82
87	DlandDug Wed 2/14/2007 8:43p	Perhaps it is a difference of opinion about what "upset" means. I get upset when my cola goes flat. The lost opportunity that is DCA makes me upset. >>It is a curious thing to me how passionate people can be about how "bad" they perceive DCA to be. These individuals did not build it, they did not contribute to its design, nor did they front one dime to construct it...<< What is that supposed to mean? That only people who build and finance theme parks are qualified to have an opinion, and a qualified opinion at that? I do not regularly come onto the boards to "bash" DCA. But I am only too happy to offer very cogent arguments to explain why it is so bad. Yes, it is easy to dismiss the repeated tired cry of "DCA sucks." But it is quite another thing to dismiss carefully thought out analysis in the same way. DCA is not "perceived" as bad. It is bad. Simply put, it is a bad theme park by almost any imaginable measure. That is not to say that everyone should villify it. Or that there is something wrong with people who like it. (I will tell you a little secret-- I kind of like DCA. Always have. But I know it is bad.) I even have a succinct statement on why DCA is bad. DCA was cynically conceived and poorly executed. If anyone cares, I would be happy to expand on that statement anytime, anywhere. Indeed, I have written a few lengthy posts in the past on that very topic. The most reasonable response I have gotten from the supporters of DCA is, "Well, that's just one man's opinion." Fair enough.
88	Socrates Wed 2/14/2007 8:47p	(I'm probably going to regret asking this, but...) When you say bad, do you mean bad for Disney, or bad period? Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
89	DlandDug Wed 2/14/2007 9:01p	I mean to say that DCA is a bad theme park. Certainly, by Disney standards it is particularly bad.
90	trekkeruss Wed 2/14/2007 9:06p	<<You devote your life to ONLY the best theme parks this world can deliver.>> Not entirely sure by what you mean by that statement. Perhaps you have devoted some or even a large measure of money and time on Disney, but your life? <<Disney didn't want to deliver in Anaheim, California>> It was the design and funding that failed, not the desire. <<So if someone's going to tell me I shouldn't be pissed off ......... Stop and re-read what I just wrote!>> I think it's okay to be angry... for a little while. But six years later? <<It's people who hold a higher standard .. who give the world hope for becoming a better place with time.>> If it makes you feel better, the three folks disneywatcher likes to hate are all gone from the company.

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