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231	Goofyernmost Sat 6/16/2007 9:44a	I also would think it is disingenuous to >>>list MS as a success when the basis for rating removed attractions was that they were underperforming.....I can't believe MS is not underperforming everyone's expectations who approved putting that attraction in, and predict that it too will be as poorly attended or likely worse when it is as old as WoM, Horizons and JiYI were when hatcheted.<<< I do agree that MS is under performing based on expected popularity but that is not the fault of the attraction itself. That is primarily the result of a massive campaign, probably unintentional, to scare the crap out of everyone that ever considered trying it. I have ridden rides for years, never once have I had motion sickness or any long term ill effects from any of them. When I first rode MS, I could not believe how apprehensive I was. Everywhere I looked or read I saw stuff like, "people are getting sick" or "people are dying" and to listen it would have to be assumed that this was happening to the masses. I do know that people are massively suggestible. If someone tells you enough that you are going to get sick, there is a better than even chance you will do so just by the mere suggestion. Anyway, I contemplated long and hard before riding MS. Finally I did and the first word out of my mouth at the end of the ride was "awesome". I never use that word, ever! What a rush. I think it was the best themed, planned and executed ride ever built. It did, I will acknowledge, create some forces that have had an impact on people that have ignored the signs and ridden it anyway, then blamed the ride for their problems. Now that they have the milder version I think with time, people will either forget what happened early on or not have been aware of it and it will increase in popularity. It is too bad that it had to be "dumbed down" but now it has a doability for everyone and that is a good decision.
232	vbdad55 Sat 6/16/2007 9:56a	<I have ridden rides for years, never once have I had motion sickness or any long term ill effects from any of them< you do realize the vast majority of people would be very envious of this statement. I could not make it and I am a thrill rider -- I can ride most of the biggest fastest - upside down monster coasters anywhere w/o an issue. However Body Wars always made me nauseous / the tea cups do now for the last 5 years or so ( age ) - the stupid pirate ship boats that you find at carnivals everywhere does, and MS did. I was not apprehensive going on at all, yet it bothered my equilibrium. I was not falling down dizzy or anything, but it made me more than a little queasy -- not something I want from a WDW visit. I have not been on the new version, but really the ride did not do that much for me anyway...maybe I had set my expectations too high. Don't get me wrong, it's OK - but compared to other -Tickets -- the enjoyment factor for me just isn't there. This may be an odd statement, but it came tome as I was thinking about why I like it far less than Everest / Splash / Thunder etc. -- maybe being outside adds to my enjoyment on a thrill ride -- HM / potc inside are more relaxing type rides. Need to noodle on this some more...
233	Labuda Sat 6/16/2007 10:03a	"and MS did. I was not apprehensive going on at all, yet it bothered my equilibrium. I was not falling down dizzy or anything, but it made me more than a little queasy -- not something I want from a WDW visit. " OOk, no to give the impression I"m a lush, BUT after drinking my way around the World Showcase in April, I went on M:S. Slightly tipsy, becuase I'd had all that booze that day, though not drunk because my friend and I took 8 hours or so to do it. Anyhow, Ann on M:S sober - eyes water horrendously at takeoff and a TEENSY bit "off" when departing. Ann on M:S when slightly tipsy: OUTSTANDING! No watery eyes, namazingly invigorating ride, and I honestly think it helped sober me up a bit! LOL
234	vbdad55 Sat 6/16/2007 10:11a	so you're saying I should do MS after a few yards of Guinness at Rose & Crown ? I would have thought the opposite, but maybe I'll give that a try
235	Labuda Sat 6/16/2007 10:28a	Honestly? If you're going to be having "a few pints", give it a shot! I'm just bummed I'm not a big drinker, so I'll be back to feeling a bit odd and having watery eyes again next month! lol Hmmm, maybe I'll jjust have a couple shots at the Rose & Crown and THEN head over to MS! lol Nahhh, I'll just ride sober.
236	Goofyernmost Sat 6/16/2007 11:20a	Why not...they do have barf bags on board!
237	BlueOhanaTerror Sat 6/16/2007 2:08p	>>>Nothing in that park is a clone except for Soarin'.<<< Cough! Nemo-Lite...COUGH! Honey I Sprayed The Audience... COUGH! Innoventions... COUGH! Project Tomorrow... COUGH! Man. The pollen is really bad these days...
238	MPierce Sat 6/16/2007 2:18p	I never new Innoventions was built after DL's version or that the Living Seas with Nemo was a clone. Same with HISTA, and I really don't know what Project Tomorrow is, would you mined telling me.
239	Labuda Sat 6/16/2007 2:28p	Ditto on Project Tomorrow - que es?
240	Spirit of 74 Sat 6/16/2007 4:05p	<<It seems rather circular to blame Disney for providing exactly what guests what.>> Perhaps. But I don't see Disney, in many cases, giving guests what they want. Compare Alien Encounter and Timekeeper (when it was open full-time and not hidden away, off park maps) to their replacements in terms of daily turnstyle clicks. <<Virtually all of WS's attractions were under-performing except for Maelstrom.>> The first Disney attraction in Florida to disappoint me, even with talented folks working on it. Of course all those budget cuts didn't help, either. <<People wanted a different experience from Epcot in the '90s/'00s and that is what they got.>> Well, if we're talking about FW that's certainly true, but WS is virtually untouched. The China film and recent redo of Mexico aren't major changes in format or quality. <<In the most part it has been successful like Test Track, Soarin', The Seas with Nemo and Friends and Mission:SPACE (and in terms of throughput it is successful even if it doesn't post 90-120 minute wait times). Other times it has not (Imagination!). >> We've discussed this many times before. I love Soarin and think it was a great addition, albeit they did it on the cheap by not making a new unique film. Test Track, I dispise. But I am fully able to appreciate that most folks disagree and that's kewl. Nemo may be a success, but they did a half-assed job on the whole pavilion and some of the other (more expensive) concepts for the Seas would have been more in keeping with the park's theme than adding cartoon fish, but I do like the redo. Mission Space simply isn't the success Disney wanted or expected when they greenlit the project. Not even close. Between deaths, illness and bad pub, there would be enough to say it isn't a success ... the fact they have turned off half the centrifuges and turned it into Body Wars: The Next Generation more than erases any doubt. And Imagination? Well, you're right, the less said, the better. Hmm... what are we leaving out? Oh yeah, WoL, which sits and decays 11 months of the year with three major attractions closed. <<But I also don't see how Epcot is a WalMart-ed product (a phrase I detest anyhow).>> And I hear some folks at TDO also detest it. Oh well, you can't please everyone so you've got to please yourself. (first caller to the 70s music trivia line gets a free spirit tee!) But whenever I see Eric Jacobson's giant cartoon wand over SSE (thankfully for not much longer), all I think of is tacky, low-quality, mass-marketed crap ... that's WalMart. <<Nothing in that park is a clone except for Soarin'.>> Uhm ... Honey, I Shrunk the Audience? Innoventions? Even almost all of Nemo is in the subs, isn't it? <<Everything else is unique and that continues to be the case with the new product like SSE, Mexico, Canada and American Adventure. The days of edutainment (a ridiculous term that many of the imagineers that worked on the orginal project hate) are long gone. I'm glad. Being preached to on rides like Universe of Energy was plain awful. 42 minutes of pain. You might not like Ellen's Energy Adventure but is does manage to be a better entertainment experience whilst maintain a show script that shows the problems we face today.>> I dunno about that at all. I don't see crowds lining up for Ellen's Energy Adventure any more than they did for UoE. I don't want to rip her or anything, I've met her and she's very nice in addition to being a talent but another Emmy!? ... wait, I'm digressing ... but I don't see lines for anything at Epcot except for SSE, TT and Soarin ... that's it.

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