Walt Disney World General
Topic: Slightly Used Wand For Sale ...

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71	danyoung Wed 6/6/2007 6:14a	>Actually, Pepsi was the World's Fair sponsor of iasw. UNICEF was their beneficiary. But I understand what you are driving at.< Thanks for that correction. I didn't think UNICEF sounded right as the money behind the attraction, but my tired brain couldn't come up with anyone else. As to the concept that Walt was or wasn't influenced in a creative way, well, that's something we'll probably never know. I agree with you, goofy, that Walt tended to go his own way, often times to the detriment of his own company, when he believed in the creative direction that he'd chosen. But one only has to look at the World's Fair's Magic Skyway, and the Ford cars that were the main conveyance of the ride, to get a hint that Walt was allowing the sponsoring corporations to provide some creative input. I can't imagine that Walt would look over the vast possibilities of how to do this attraction and decide on his own that Ford cars were the way to go. It was Ford's nickel, and the cars were chosen. Was Walt pressured into it, or was it just a sensible decision? I don't think there's any way to know. And I'd also bet you that there have been many many complaints at Epcot's Guest Relations about the wand. It's been almost universally reviled here online, and I'm guessing that the average tourist did indeed have an opinion on it, and has expressed it quite often. I have no inside knowledge on this - just a guess. Anyway, I'm still super happy that it's coming down (I wish the webcams still worked so we could see it coming down piece by piece!).
72	ssWEDguy Wed 6/6/2007 8:49a	>> And I'd also bet you that there have been many many complaints at Epcot's Guest Relations about the wand. It's been almost universally reviled here online, and I'm guessing that the average tourist did indeed have an opinion on it, and has expressed it quite often. << I doubt this very much. If the average guest doesn't like the "look" of something, they just ignore it or go somewhere else. It takes too much energy to complain about something when you just can ignore it. The average guest will complain if something bad happens to them, some accident, some food problem, some active ride issue. Especially when they can be sometimes compensated for their problem. But who gets compensated for "not liking the wand?" Very few, I suspect. The only people who complain actively about the "look" (and rightfully so) are Disney detail and history people, like those of us who feel compelled to post on boards like these. But we are in a minority. An important minority, but a minority.
73	ssWEDguy Wed 6/6/2007 8:56a	PS. I can go either way with the wand, but probably will not lament it's passing. I am intrigued by the engineering. And I feel that it breaks the vertical symmetry of the sphere by itself in at least an interesting way. The Castle is not symmetric, even though it is the centered focus of the view down Main Street. The Tree is not symmetric. The Hat is not symmetric. But SpaceShip Earth without the wand, is. But then that was probably the original intent.
74	Goofyernmost Wed 6/6/2007 9:05a	^^^That's the way I feel about it too. I kind of like it but I don't really care if it exist or not. What I didn't like was the "pixie dust" on the top of SSE. If they lost that I would be fine with the whole concept. To me it ties Epcot in with the rest of WDW and for those that complain so much about people expressing that they are at Epcot and are going to WDW it should be welcome.
75	ssWEDguy Wed 6/6/2007 9:15a	You know where the wand would be cool? Relegated to the boneyard over at Studios, way in the back. It could be a nifty addition to the BackLot Tour. I doubt that that would ever happen. It would be a VERY costly thing to do, to effectively be an additional tweak to an existing attraction. But it is cool to think about it.
76	ssWEDguy Wed 6/6/2007 9:16a	Or even scarier. How about alongside and arching over the hat? (ducking for cover!......)
77	MPierce Wed 6/6/2007 10:43a	>> Let us hope the wand dies a horrible painful death. << Good to see you over here Merf, welcome. >> Or even scarier. How about alongside and arching over the hat? (ducking for cover!......) << Remember people know where you work. :)
78	plpeters70 Wed 6/6/2007 10:46a	"Animal Kingdom has a clearly delineated theme. Africa, Asia, the Oasis, and Conservation Station are obvious." Well, not really. I understand that they all center arounnd animals, but I think they could have done a better job deliniating the lands. It would make a lot more sense if the park were divided into three areas - the present world, extinct animals, and animals that never existed. And maybe have Discovery Island to tie them all together somehow. As it is, you have two continents as "lands", but then a museum/fair "land" and a camp "land". Like I said, kind of a strange hodge-podge. But don't get me wrong - as much as I think the area is a mixed-up mess of themes, I would still LOVE to see Beastly Kingdom thrown in.
79	plpeters70 Wed 6/6/2007 10:53a	"To me it ties Epcot in with the rest of WDW and for those that complain so much about people expressing that they are at Epcot and are going to WDW it should be welcome." Again, why do we need Mickey to tie Epcot in with the rest of WDW?? Back when there were only two theme parks at WDW I could understand the confusion. But now WDW has FOUR theme parks - I think everyone gets the idea now that Disney owns all of those parks. We really don't need a giant mickey arm to make that point clear. Or a giant Mickey hat either. Or maybe I'm wrong, and we should have Mickey's other arm over Cinderella's Castle, and a giant Mickey face carved into the front of the Tree of Life...
80	BlueOhanaTerror Wed 6/6/2007 12:04p	The two resident "experts" on WDWMagic are still denying that there's any intent to pull this thing down. Funny thing is, in a couple of months, all the little luddites are still going to kiss their feet and think they're still so connected that they know everything that's going on. Gonna be fun and tragic to watch - like when those lemmings fall into the sea.

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