Walt Disney World General
Topic: WoL officially DOA ...

#	Author	Message
31	pheneix Wed 6/20/2007 2:26p	Imagination will be taken care of before Wonders of Life, I can almost guarantee it.
32	ChiMike Wed 6/20/2007 2:39p	^^ Good to hear pheneix
33	MPierce Wed 6/20/2007 3:12p	Sadly I am slowly becoming disillusioned with, and very cynical of some of the decisions being made. Kind of like some great minds on this forum have been saying for a long time. (satirical remark follows) I was really hoping for a Homage pavilion, maybe they could put in scale models of Pop Century the Early Years or the Odyssey building or the Foutainview or the Millenium Village or so many other empty buildings around property. How about a movie "the Never Ending Duality of Disney Executives". We'll give you some really good attractions, and some really good refurbs, but then we will turn around, and gut a building. Guess what we're going to do with WOL, that's right nothing. After all why have something all guest can enjoy when we can charge extra for special events, and don't have to staff it all the time. I really am trying hard not to become a constant complainer. I do appreciate the efforts that have taken place, and are taking place now. My only question's are, why take a step backwards by gutting a pavilion with no real replacement? You were offering so much promise for a park I truly love. Why this decision now?
34	twirlnhurl Wed 6/20/2007 4:40p	I get really frustrated with the idea that this place is dated beyond repair. Body Wars is far from unsalvageable, and in my opinion is far better then Star Tours. Some simple cleaning up and a few other things would help greatly. Any talk of updating Star Tours highlights this fact. I feel like I am in a newer space watching the Body Wars preshow video then I do watching Star Tours preshow. The waiting area could be made to look more futuristic with medical charts and partitions separating different pods waiting areas. Also, the room with the simulator could be themed and lit to match what is seen in the video (remember that the beginning of the video has doors opening up. Simply put a fake hanger door on the front wall.) This along with a cleaned up print of the film or digital screens, a new sound system, and other minor tweaks likely for Star Tours would be a relatively inexpensive way to make the attraction as good as new. Cranium Command has a dated video. However, the animation and story are timeless. Wouldn't it be simple to replace the live action footage with new animation set to the original dialog recordings? The theater could use a bit of an update, replacing some dated colors or fixtures, but for the most part, everyone likes Cranium Command, and it should be easy to make it current. The Making of Me is a film I enjoy, but would not be crushed if it were removed. The entire central area could be repurposed without much protest from me. At the end of the day, the pavilion's two major attractions are not beyond repair, and the central space is very open and would seem current with a little bit of cosmetic changes. With the restaurant closed, there are no permanent food locations in Future World East. With at least three food locations in Future World West, it seems odd to me that this is the case. All of these things would be expensive, for a rehab, but should be quite cheaper then a completely new attraction or pavilion. Hopefully someone in management will realize the potential for this location, and if parties need so much space, why not build a structure designed for this from scratch?
35	ChiMike Wed 6/20/2007 5:52p	1) I would say fat chance for Body Wars. With newer virtual experiences in the park like M:S and Soarin', Body Wars is prehistoric. Also, they can barely get bodies on Star Tours and that is with the popular Star Wars theme. 2) There is a restaurant in Future World East. It's the Electric Umbrella. With the expanded food court in The Land I really don't see a need for another counter service locale. If a need arises they have the odyssey and FountainView to fall back on. Easier to rehab and reopen them then support an entire pavilion off the beaten path. As I said earlier, WoL has been DOA for the majority of WDW park guests since at least 2002. This isn't like shutting down something that people have been recently using.
36	Kennesaw Tom Wed 6/20/2007 7:36p	I am still hoping for a scary pavallion with killer robots and "rejuvinating" lasers.
37	Spirit of 74 Wed 6/20/2007 7:44p	I would just point out that with WoL's demise there are actually fewer attractions at Epcot than at any time in its history. Who knew the future would be all about empty SPACES?
38	ChiMike Wed 6/20/2007 8:16p	Michael Eisner and his profound Montana vision of the future. You know where everyone is wealthy off of option grants?
39	ChiMike Wed 6/20/2007 8:21p	>>I would just point out that with WoL's demise there are actually fewer attractions at Epcot than at any time in its history.<< Now wait a sec. I am missing something. Unless disregarding when Disney was extremely clear in their distinctions of what made a WDW exhibit and what made a WDW attraction, how are there less attractions now than ever? At opening there was no JII, no Seas, no WoL, no Horizons, no Maelstrom. What gives Spirit? What am I missing in 2007.
40	Spirit of 74 Wed 6/20/2007 8:25p	^^Yep. My bad, Mike. I should have said anytime post-'86.

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