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TDR_Fan
Sun 8/19/2007 11:02p
<<You know, we are so fed up with Disneyland-style parks that we spend a lot of time in WDSP and TDS. Our main goal in WDW is MGM Studios. Maybe we should visit Universal instead of Disney :)>>

Well, I'm not the biggest Magic Kingdom fan either. I prefer Epcot or Animal Kingdom at Walt Disney World and Tokyo DisneySea at the Tokyo Disney Resort.
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Mr X
Sun 8/19/2007 11:22p
>>I think you may always just be on the lookout for anything negative at TDS<<

Ya think? :p

Interesting points about Lee's not so hidden agenda, SD...I've mentioned it many times before but he tries to deny it.
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leemac
Mon 8/20/2007 1:52a
I'm not going to address the bias comment specifically but on a general basis. I absolutely refute that notion. I am not here to peddle anyone else's opinion or the Company's line. The reason I happen to think Everest is a tour de force has nothing to do with the fact that I have any sort of relationship (whether perceived or actual) with the likes of Joe Rohde or Kathy Rogers. I happen to think it is a great attraction. There are plenty of people that I personally like and enjoy working with at WDI that have produced some poor attractions. I don't care for Stitch's Great Escape! but that doesn't mean I'm going to say I love it just because it was created by two imagineers that I happen to like and respect (both professionally and personally) namely Rick Rothchild and Kevin Rafferty. I also know most of the team behind TDS (even though most are no longer with the Company) but that doesn't mean I'm going to skew my viewpoint because of that. I find the attractions at TDS weak, plain and simple. I'll take another one as an example: StormRider is incredibly weak from both a story POV and in its execution. Simply making the Star Tours cabins bigger (and adding some fairly lame in-theater effects) doesn't compensate for a terribly unoriginal and unaffective storyline. The SFX are the weakest I have ever seen in a Disney film-based attraction that has been created in the last 10 years. The pre-show is actually pretty effective I will grant.

As anyone that knows me will attest I wear my heart on my sleeve and I'm opinionated to a fault. That said I've had these arguments with a lot of people within the Company too. Some agree with me and some don't. The nature of the beast.

Now there is little I can do (or frankly care about doing) to change people's perceptions of me. If people believe I have a bias then so be it.
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TDR_Fan
Mon 8/20/2007 2:25a
Like I said before, everyone has different opinions :). I can pretty much make the weak attractions argument for any of the other Disney parks and be able to list just as many points as you. You happen to dislike the attractions at DisneySea, but many Disney fans love them. I know many who happen to think that they are among the best E-ticket attractions out of the Disney parks. You think Expedition Everest is a great attraction, yet several Disney fans find the ride portion disappointing and consisting of nothing much to see after such an eye candy packed queue. Again, different strokes for different folks.

It's just that when your opinion differs greatly from what the majority of people think, you're going to have a hard time arguing your point. Naturally, you should expect a lot of counter opinions. I'm sure people around here already know your dislike for the park, but must you constantly bash it every chance you get? Especially when some of your criticisms contradict what you have said in the past regarding attractions/elements at other Disney park.
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TDR_Fan
Mon 8/20/2007 4:50a
<I have to completely disagree with this. Regarding the torso being just stuck in the ground, I never noticed this before. I'm sure I will the next time (thanks for ruining it! :-)). I think you may always just be on the lookout for anything negative at TDS. And, it's a she, BTW, not a he (told to me proudly by a female CM). >>

I always though that only half of its body showing made sense, since it's a magma worm and all. Its torso is supposed to be buried in molten rock, which is a very realistic effect by the way.
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TDR_Fan
Mon 8/20/2007 4:51a
*thought*
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barboy
Mon 8/20/2007 8:53a
"One day at Disneyland, I overheard a couple from Hong Kong remark that the park didn't look much better than their Disneyland back home."



If by "better" they meant more to do and/or more grand then their "opinion" is so far beyond riduculous that they lack any and all credibility on assessing Disney parks.

Their line of thought would be like someone not being able to discern between a beachfront condo. and a beachfront mansion.
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TDR_Fan
Mon 8/20/2007 9:10a
^
I agree.
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barboy
Mon 8/20/2007 4:13p
Someone actually takes issue with the lava creature wading in its own natural habitat? Where the heck do you want her to be---- out front accepting Fastpasses and directing guest traffic, sheesh!


I'll listen to the, "it's too short" or "what's up with that painted flat of the correct route" arguments but a partially submerged creature? Sorry, but taking issue with that is beyond flimsy.

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TDR_Fan
Mon 8/20/2007 4:26p
^

Again, I agree.
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