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Topic: 9/5/07 FastPass Fairness in the Magic Kingdom

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1	Admin Thu 9/6/2007 7:11a	This topic is for Discussion of: 9/5/07 FastPass Fairness in the Magic Kingdom
2	ni_teach Thu 9/6/2007 7:11a	It's no secret that management has been wanting to change for fastpass since the start. We have hear talk about this for years now and have seen other amusement parks get away with charging for their version of the fastpass. Personally I think that its a bad idea to charge for fastpass and I do have mixed feelings about the whole system. But I think that the pressure to want to charge more money will cause them to make this new system.
3	twirlnhurl Thu 9/6/2007 7:25a	I know that Universal charging money for their fastpass was the best thing they could have done, because it made the regular lines move a lot faster as less people used it. However, Disney World's guests are more likely to use such a system, so I'm not sure if it would fix the problems that Disney's Fastpass causes the same way as it helped Universal.
4	Doobie Thu 9/6/2007 7:35a	I definitely disagree with this one. I have no issue at all with Disney giving in-park perks to resort guests (and even more perks for certain resorts) over non-resort guests. Like anything, it can be carried too far and guests won't put up with it (Disney does care about the guest satisfaction numbers), but the concept is not a problem at all for me. Disney should do everything they can to take care of their Resort guests while, obviously, balancing that with the needs of their non-resort guests. Hopefully Disney will use the FastPass system to implement this so it's not obvious that these guests are getting privileges others don't have. IE: I don't mind if things aren't equal. But I do hope things at least look equal. That makes for a better experience for all. Doobie.
5	GalDisney Thu 9/6/2007 11:53a	I can see why Universal offers this service to their resort guests: Universal needs something to get guests to fill their hotele and visit their theme parks, Disney does not. Disney does not need to resort to this. WDW is has many, many more vistors every year than Universal. Heck WDW could stop advertising their theme parks today and people would still visit, not so with Universal. Uviversal has a decrease in guests every year while WDW sees growth. Disney does not need to charge a premium for this service. With as many visitors that WDW seees, espceially the MK , and the lengths of the attraction lines, fast pass is a nice perk for theme park guests, regardless if they are day guests or multi day vacationers who stay on property.
6	fkurucz Thu 9/6/2007 12:59p	<<Disney does not need to resort to this.>> It depends. If they can sell the fastpasses, or charge more per room if fastpasses are included, then they could make more money. Of course, any gains from selling fast passes could be offset by loss in revenue from off property guests who feel that Disney has gone too far this time, and take their vacation dollars elsewhere.
7	Doobie Thu 9/6/2007 1:12p	I personally would be surprised if Disney ends up selling FastPasses in any direct way. Disney has shown with Magical Express and the yearly free dining that their concern is getting people to stay on property. Giving some kind of FastPass perks for being an on property guest is much more likely than actually charging directly for it, IMHO. But I've been wrong before. Doobie.
8	gmaletic Thu 9/6/2007 1:32p	I don't know that I directly addressed the issue about whether Disney would literally sell the FastPasses or whether they would simply be a perk of being a resort guest (which would amount to an indirect purchase.) I'm not wild about the idea either way. I should note that my title, "FastPass Fairness," goes a little over the top; hoepfully as my text makes clear, I'm not suggesting that resort guests getting FastPasses not available to other park guests is truly "unfair"...people getting more for paying more isn't unfair. It's just that I think it creates a distinct class division in the park that doesn't exist today. I guess I couldn't resist the alliteration.
9	berol Thu 9/6/2007 1:37p	They mighta decided not to alter fastpass, but filed the patents to own the ideas.
10	berol Thu 9/6/2007 1:38p	...as the last paragraph already said. heh

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