| # | Author | Message |
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| ChurroMonster
Sat 10/6/2007 1:16a | I believe that the rumored Tony Baxter e-ticket is supposed to built in and behind the current location of RRPP. That's where the most room is anyway. Other than that the only real expansion options for TL are where the Autopia currently sits or where Innoventions now sits. |
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| gadzuux
Sat 10/6/2007 11:10a | Autopia is ripe for replacement. It sprawls out over huge amounts of square footage in the NE quadrant of the park.
And for what - go-karts? Please. With the heavily rumored new 'cars' ride coming online within the next few years, this will only serve to make 'autopia' more irrelevant than ever.
Autopia is space intensive, CM intensive, and unappealing to a majority of the park's guests. Elimination of this ride will free up vast expanses of developable land, allow for a significant upgrade to TL, and increase the overall capacity of the park itself.
To maximize the space, I'd think it necessary to include the DLRR tracks in some kind of perimeter tunnel and reconfigure the monorail beam - the monorail could still follow a course through the area, but be better incorporated into this new development.
Autopia SUCKS! |
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| jonvn
Sat 10/6/2007 11:27a | It's always jammed. People love the Autopia. The Cars ride will not be the same. You drive the autopia car, the Cars ride, if it is based on Test Track is something you just ride in. |
34
| TMICHAEL
Sat 10/6/2007 6:22p | Autopia needs to go. Peoplemover track needs to go. Monorail needs to be re-routed out of the park and used as a transportation device and not a "ride". The Monorail Station could theoretically go above the Tomorrowland Train Station. And finally link the Monorail to the PP Hotel.
Doing this would free up a HUGE parcel in Tomorrowland for more than one attraction. AND create a second HUGE parcel in Fantasyland for another E-ticket or possibly two Darkrides.
My ultimate vision would have TDL's HunnyHunt in the Fantasyland area and replace the current Pooh in Critter Country with a more exciting attraction to compliment Splash Mountain. How about an indoor family Dark Ride/Coaster like Crushs' in DLP only themed to a Country Bears road trip with the band (where something goes terribly wrong...LOL) Dual tracked for capacity, of course, and throw in some near misses between the 2 tracks for a little more excitement. |
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| jonvn
Sat 10/6/2007 6:38p | Anything that replaces the autopia would have to be able to sit atop the sub caves. Those would have to be strengthened to allow a building to be put up there, and probably be required to be seismically up to date.
So because of that, I doubt the Autopia is going anyplace. |
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| DlandDug
Sat 10/6/2007 10:16p | >>I believe that the rumored Tony Baxter e-ticket is supposed to built in and behind the current location of RRPP.<<
There's virtually no room behind R2P2. All that's there is a narrow road, and then the Grand Canyon diorama building.
>>Anything that replaces the autopia would have to be able to sit atop the sub caves. Those would have to be strengthened to allow a building to be put up there, and probably be required to be seismically up to date.<<
Too true. The subs show buildings (1959), monorail track (1959), People Mover track (1967) and Autopia (1955/1998) all occupy the area in question. Tearing out any part of these closely integrated systems would require a vast amount of finesse and resource. |
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| jonvn
Sun 10/7/2007 9:18a | I don't know why people don't like the autopia. I think it's fun.
But then, I don't commute 3 hours a day.
What is not good about that ride is how they fouled it up with making the cars be alive and living in some sort of car world. That was a dumb idea, but it's easy to ignore.
I like how long it is. It's really a great ride for that. Now all they have to do is get rid of the puns and it's perfect. |
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| Dabob2
Sun 10/7/2007 1:03p | The autopia doesn't provide much "oomph" for me now as an adult (though I did ride the new longer version once and it was kind of fun, at least in a "deja vu" way...
But I remember how much I loved it as a kid. To be able to drive your own car before you can actually drive is a big deal. I agree that not everything at DL needs to be kid-oriented (and they've gone too much in that direction), but there was a time when the Autopia was one of my top 2 or 3 attractions. And the fact that there's only one now makes it harder to take out.
Not to mention the huge issue of building on top of the sub caves.
If they were going to re-do the NE quadrant (which in theory, I agree, is a good idea), the time to do it was after the subs closed. By reopening them, they've pretty much guaranteed the continued existence of the autopia.
Innoventions remains the most logical place for a new TL attraction. |
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| ArchtMig
Sun 10/7/2007 2:26p | I love the autopia. I drive a G35 in real life like a bat outta hell, but I still love the autopia. Supposedly the new electric cars for autopia in Hong Kong are really great. I hope they bring them to a future redo of our autopia and that we have autopia forever. And leave the Monorail inside the park. It really adds so much more to the kinetic feel of Disneyland beyond the ride and transportation aspects alone.
You know, the flip side of adding new E-Tickets is that you have to squeeze in huge show buildings more often than not. Not every new attraction can be themed to be a mountain of some sort. I like how the autopia area of tomorrowland is relatively open and tree studded. I don't want to see the autopia, the monorail, or the trees ripped out just to accommodate a new building for a new E-Ticket.
This is the same reason I'm not a huge proponent of adding a massive new attraction where the Indian Settlement area of Rivers of America is. I like how there is one stretch of the river where you're away from heavy development, and you can feel like you're in the wilderness. If they develop that area, you'll have walkways along the riverbank surrounding almost the entire river, every linear foot of the river except for a small length alongside the RR tracks will be crawling with people, and Disneyland will lose something special. |
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| DlandDug
Sun 10/7/2007 9:05p | >>I like how there is one stretch of the river where you're away from heavy development, and you can feel like you're in the wilderness.<<
Absolutely! I have never gotten over the way the Festival of Fools looms over the Indian Village from certain angles. I love sailing "out" of Disneyland in the back corner of the Rivers of America. It's one of the best tricks at the Park. I hope they don't lose that. |
