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Topic: What does Monsters Inc. have to do with TL?

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oc_dean
Tue 3/4/2008 9:01p
I was curious about the opening date, as there's a slight chance I may go to Japan in May.
But this monster sized attraction (pun intended!) hasn't been in construction for that long .. but I wondered if it were opening around May this year.

Just so I can say how utterly out of place it is in Tomorrowland! ;)

All kidding aside ....
no matter how good the quality may be....
It really is a sad day that the Oriental Land Co. is just as clueless about a cohesive "futuristic" theme as the US-based Disney Corporate idiots are!

Sorry.

I'm sure many of you talented imagineers out there put a lot of pride into the attractions you create ..........

but come on,
seriously,

Do any of you care anything at all about the concept of "Tomorrowland"?
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oc_dean
Tue 3/4/2008 9:03p
Does anyone within Disney have any guts to stand up for the cohesive structure of a "Tomorrow"-land ?

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oc_dean
Tue 3/4/2008 9:06p
Does anyone at Disney even bother to watch shows like The Universe on the History Channel ... and see the AMAZING discoveries the Hubble telescope has been making recently? At an incredible time in human history .. we are NOW discovering PLANETS in other star systems hundreds of light years away?

The material Disney could be getting out of NASA these days for inspiration for future attractions is amazing!

But it seems the only thing on Disney/OLC's radar is MORE cartoons!

That's really sad.

really.
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Mr X
Tue 3/4/2008 9:10p
***I was curious about the opening date, as there's a slight chance I may go to Japan in May.***

Cool! :D
55
FerretAfros
Tue 3/4/2008 10:38p
Just out of curiosity, what's everybody's take on Port Discovery as part of the Tomorrowland debate?

I know it is themed more toward the history of the future (similar to DLP's Discoveryland), but I really got the feeling that they were looking forward when they were creating the attractions there. Sure, there's not much story to Aquatopia, but it's a fun look at what the future may hold for transportation. Storm Chaser really seemed to embody, to me at least, all the things that the "old" Tomorrowlands were about. It was a serious look at an issue that we have today, but taking a somewhat whimsical approach to the solution. That's what TL should be to me.

I don't know if they have decided that PD will be the serious one for TDR or TL will do that, but it seems like they are at the point where one will focus on the future, and the other will focus on future-based cartoons. TDL's TL never really worked as being completely futuristic because of Meet the World, so I'm not sure that replacing it with Monsters Inc will really change all that much. Yes, it's another cartoon character, but Monstropolis definatley has a "big bright beautiful tomorrow" look to it throughout the film, even through the darker moments. At least the feeling of a hopeful future remains in this attraction, unlike the Laugh Floor which has no reason to be there.
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TDR_Fan
Tue 3/4/2008 10:58p
I think Port Discovery is closer to the futuristic vision than any other area in a Disney Park. Back in its prime, Future World was undeniably the fully realized Tomorrowland. Sadly, it has lost its focus and now seems rather outdated. Discoveryland's take of a future that never existed worked wonderfully...until they tore that theme apart. Now it's really just a Tomorrowland with prettier theming and a few retrofuturistic touches here and there. Port Discovery had the right approach, having the same concept as Discoveryland but still retaining a cohesive theme. And the color scheme (bronze, silver, and gold, with a touch of teal)is fantastic and unlikely to appear out of style anytime soon like Tomorrowland's whites and blues.
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Mr X
Tue 3/4/2008 11:55p
DisneySea has a ton of parallels to Disneyland, actually.

Adventureland = Lost River and Arabian Coast

Toontown = Mermaid Lagoon

Tomorrowland = Port Discovery

Main Street = American Waterfront

Fantasyland = Mysterious Island (okay, that's a bit of a stretch lol)


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leemac
Wed 3/5/2008 12:26a
<<Do any of you care anything at all about the concept of "Tomorrowland"? >>

To be fair most (inside OLC and Disney) felt that that particular pad was actually a transition space from World Bazaar and Tomorrowland. The color scheme and architectural motifs of the former Meet the World building were reflections of World Bazaar rather than Tomorrowland. TL doesn't really commence until Star Tours (although they are right next door to each other).

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leemac
Wed 3/5/2008 12:30a
<<"The interaction is your flashlight tagging the monsters - it will usually trigger either a gag or another monster."


Hello, Men In Black.


So we're getting a Universal type experience but without the scoring---- I see. NOT GOOD! Did I mention that I really hate interaction in attractions? >>

Well there is nothing I can say that will change your opinion. I forget the exact number but there are something like 90+ AAs in this attrction from fully realized Mike and Sulleys to the locker room scene where almost every single door has a monster hiding behind it.

It will be an incredible attraction once it is finished - a clever spin on the Monsters Inc story and some fun - the goal for both OLC and Disney was repeatability - there is a hardhat monster that is tricky to find and regular guests will want to find every monsters.
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TDR_Fan
Wed 3/5/2008 12:32a
I think Mermaid Lagoon resembles Fantasyland more than Toontown personally, both having a distinct European influence and all. And Mysterious Island seems most like Frontierland (Disneyland Paris' version especially) for me, having detailed rockwork and an elaborate backstory to the whole land. And the Victorian era architecture draws reference to Main Street, USA as well.
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