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Topic: LP Lotion: Sleeping Beauty's Winter Castle at Disn

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1	Admin Tue 11/27/2007 6:02a	This topic is for Discussion of LP Lotion: Sleeping Beauty's Winter Castle at Disn
2	Pollyana Tue 11/27/2007 6:02a	Thanks Doug...great pics! Once again, you have made that special moment a special time for me. We are not going to Dland this season, so seeing it through you is wonderful. Thanks for sharing. Happy Holidays!!!!!
3	BlueOhanaTerror Sun 12/2/2007 8:28p	Having seen the castle in person a few days ago... I have to say, they kind of crossed a line with "Gaudy" here. It just felt kind of like overkill. Perhaps because all the lights were about the same size and intensity, perhaps because it looked like something just about anyone could do (the snow caps notwithstanding...). But I think it just felt like "too much." And then there's JUST the castle that's got lights and snow on it, so everything else just sticks out conspicuously as NOT. For me it just looked kind of "meh, that's it?"
4	BlueOhanaTerror Sun 12/2/2007 8:29p	>>>And then there's JUST the castle that's got lights and snow on it, so everything else just sticks out conspicuously as NOT.<<< Not having any wintry lights/snow/feel. The disconnect, design-wise, is palpable.
5	2001DLFan Sun 12/2/2007 8:54p	<<BlueOhanaTerror: Having seen the castle in person a few days ago... I have to say, they kind of crossed a line with "Gaudy" here. It just felt kind of like overkill. Perhaps because all the lights were about the same size and intensity, perhaps because it looked like something just about anyone could do (the snow caps notwithstanding...). But I think it just felt like "too much." And then there's JUST the castle that's got lights and snow on it, so everything else just sticks out conspicuously as NOT. For me it just looked kind of "meh, that's it?">> I agree. While some of the lighting is very pretty, it's often just too over the top and garish. Disney's most successful shows are highlighted by subtle but effective show lighting. What they have been presenting now is like a beautiful woman with excessive make up. The excessive lighting just overpowers the natural beauty that was designed into the castle. I don't know where Disney has been getting their designers (lighting or otherwise) lately, but there seems to be little of the subtle creativity that earlier generations were able to produce.
6	BlueOhanaTerror Mon 12/3/2007 12:38p	>>> What they have been presenting now is like a beautiful woman with excessive make up.<<< Yeah! That's it exactly. And what struck me as well... They have these curly-cue plastic "icicles" hanging down everywhere, that intertwine with the lights. During the day, they don't "read" from more than say 20 feet away, and at night, they have no significant diffusion/refraction quality to add any "shape" to the lights. Having done more effective "faux ice" lighting effects myself, and knowing it's NOT that hard to pull off, I'm kind of puzzled at why this particular approach was taken. Frankly, it looks kind of cheap.
7	FerretAfros Mon 12/3/2007 12:45p	I think it was done to make the icicles visible at night from a distance since normal icicle lights just look like a wall of light from a distance. By grouping them together, it gives a more realistic shape (wider at top and coming to a point instead of a single line) and also makes it easier to get what they are from a distance (since the gap is much more visible. There were infinate ways to do this though, and I guess they decided the curly things were the best idea. As for why they did that instead of anything else, I have no idea.
8	toddnbeth Fri 12/7/2007 9:39p	I thought that the icicles and snow looked pretty good in pictures. Now that I have seen it in person, however, I have changed my mind. The icicles look really bad during daylight, and not that great at night either. The castle looks prettier when the icicle lights are off and just the garlands are lit, in my opinion. The snow looks ok from a distance but not so great up close. It doesnt fit well in many places, there are lots of pieces missing around the walls, I also noticed that many of the gold spires on the turrets are bent and damaged from the installation. It seemed like they could have been easily fixed but no one took the time to do so while they were up there. All in all it looked to me like an idea which probably looked great on paper, but not so great in execution, in my opinion.
9	USCSurfer Thu 12/20/2007 2:17p	I agree that the castle does seem to be a little over done. The Small World light show, on the other hand, is spectacular. In my opinion it just fits.

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