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Topic: 11/30/07 In Defense of Space Mountain

#	Author	Message
1	Admin Tue 12/4/2007 1:53a	This topic is for Discussion of: 11/30/07 In Defense of Space Mountain
2	stitch81 Tue 12/4/2007 1:53a	I whole heartedly agree!!!
3	davewasbaloo Tue 12/4/2007 3:11a	I do not, but I can see where you are coming from. Just like I love the Matterhorn as it was my first coaster, and a complete submersion into another world. Therefore I respect your opinion. FWIW, in it's day SM rocked. I just find it hard to believe it's someone's fav. As a kid I used to adore PB&J, but I would still rather eat Fillet Mignon ;-) But I love the fact you shared your perception. I think it is those formative experiences of our youth that shapes our love of Disney now. And just like I love TRON and the deep impact it had on my life, I know others do not share y love of this film.
4	brotherdave Tue 12/4/2007 5:38a	I most heartily agree, Greg! As a coaster, MK's Space Mountain was indeed innovative as the first 'modern' coaster in the dark. Although small by today's monster thrill rides at other parks, Space Mountain still delivers a great ride experience without resorting to gimmicky (and often uncomfortable) loops. Yes, the effects need sprucing up, but overall, the ride is still a fun one more than 30 years later. And I agree that, especially considering its age, that the ride is not as rough as some suggest. In fact, it's very smooth when compared to many steel coasters in operation today. I also find the layout much more interesting and fun than Disneyland's. Sure, DL has the better effects now and onboard music. But, as a coaster junkie, those are just gimmicks that sometime interfere with the the actual ride experience. Take away both, and Disneyland's Space Mountain is a rather boring ride. MK's Space Mountain is still fun, even with the house lights turned on. (Yes, I did get to ride MK's Space Mountain with the lights on last year, and it was still a very fun coaster that I feel most amusement parks would love to have in their ride line-up!) Now, can MK's Space Mountain be improved? Sure, especially with the theming and presentation (darker would be better, obviously!) But, as for the ride itself, it will be tough to find something as thrilling, yet family friendly, to equate to it. I truly hope that during its reconstruction, that the layout remains the same. I love the dual track design, as well as the single seat layout of the trains which gfves a more 'personal' experience than side by side seating. The Magic Kingdom's Space Mountain will always be one of my favorite fun coaster experiences!
5	Dabob2 Tue 12/4/2007 6:52a	Well I can't agree - I prefer both DL's and DLP's - but certainly the MK's has its strong points. And there's nothing wrong with personal nostalgia.
6	a1stav Tue 12/4/2007 7:53a	"Most of all, I love the show building itself; at more than twice the size of any other Space Mountain show building, it's simply awesome..." That's why I think the show building is being wasted with the just OK two track layout. It would be far better with one longer track. With clever track design you could easly recreate the little airtime bumps and quick turns that you like about the ride. The track design is similar to the Schwarzkopf / Jet Star coaster that has been removed from most amusement parks that ever had them. http://www.rcdb.com/ig355.htm? picture=1 Of course the comparison to the matterhorn is undeniable. SM is basically the matterhorn in the dark. It can be so much more.
7	fkurucz Tue 12/4/2007 8:38a	I was very underwhelmed with MK's SM. I think DL's is heads and shoulders above it.
8	disneysnout Tue 12/4/2007 9:43a	WDW best Space, No Way,
9	Kennesaw Tom Tue 12/4/2007 12:04p	I'm going to have to disagree. Yes, I think it has a great building and the inside of building is masive. But DLR Space Mountain is much, much better done, smoother ride, ride vehicles where you ride side by side, and SOUND. If you are squarely comparing roller coast to roller coaster... DLR wins hands down. WDW Space Mountain has a ways to go to catch up.
10	Kennesaw Tom Tue 12/4/2007 12:07p	Its funny Dave that you brought up the Matterhorn Bobsleds. I much rather prefer the Matterhorn Bobsleds to WDW Space Mountain. Having the ride vehicle going in and out of the Matterhorn mountain so you can look out while you race down the mountain is so much more fun.

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