Tokyo Disneyland
Topic: TDL's New Parade - Jubilation!

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71	Mr X Mon 4/21/2008 7:49a	***But I have to ask: for what venue was J! designed for? Wasn't it designed to be performed in TDL? If the end result is something that can't be properly performed in that venue, then there's something wrong with the design, independent of any legitimate problems the venue might have.*** That is an excellent point. Maybe they were hoping for an upgrade? :p It is weird if true (and I've no reason to doubt Lee's opinion on it). I always knew the system sucked, but thought it was pretty much the same in all that parks. Or at least I assumed that the newer parks had better systems. Plus why would Tokyo be so bad, the freakin hi tech hi fi capital of the planet!
72	leemac Mon 4/21/2008 9:14a	<<I didn't know that. But I have to ask: for what venue was J! designed for? Wasn't it designed to be performed in TDL? If the end result is something that can't be properly performed in that venue, then there's something wrong with the design, independent of any legitimate problems the venue might have.>> They don't have the updated audio system that the other MKs have - it isn't just a question of quality of sound but also the phasing which is poor. Try watching the parade from the hub - the bleed is awful.
73	Mr X Mon 4/21/2008 9:15a	Yeah, I'm not a big fan of blood myself. :p
74	leemac Mon 4/21/2008 9:20a	<<Leemac, you mention wanting to use J! as a way to widen the audience for TDR beyond the current guest population - do you think that de-emphasizing characters at TDL (as opposed to TDS) is the right way to go about this?>> I don't think OLC see it in that mindset just yet. They will need to at some point though - their core market is ageing and shrinking - they need to find a way to keep the existing audience occupied (think less thrill rides) and a way to attract new guests. Elements like Cirque are perfect - it will attract a completely different clientele to the resort - although they might not appreciate the long schlep through Ikspiari! I think it is about finding a new way to present entertainment in the park. Not everything should be character-driven which is the case for the vast majority of special events these days. That is great for the core audience but TDR should be willing to push the envelope a little. Be more adventurous about their offerings. As I said earlier - it is a delicating balancing act and I'm not sure any of us know how to achieve it.
75	Mr X Mon 4/21/2008 9:48a	***I'm not sure any of us know how to achieve it.*** I do. They'll have to pay me a lot for the secret though...I'm pitching it to Vegas first. :p
76	Mr X Mon 4/21/2008 9:49a	Anyone notice there was no castle show this year? I wonder why?
77	SuperDry Mon 4/21/2008 11:03a	<<< Elements like Cirque are perfect - it will attract a completely different clientele to the resort - although they might not appreciate the long schlep through Ikspiari! >>> I'm willing to bet that the Ikspiari merchants will appreciate it, especially the restaurants. Speaking of Ikspiari merchants and blood, I noticed that the blood donation center has been replaced with a DoCoMo service center. I poked my head in there briefly, and it seemed to be doing a brisk business. DoCoMo seems to be a better fit than the Red Cross.
78	SuperDry Mon 4/21/2008 11:06a	<<< They don't have the updated audio system that the other MKs have - it isn't just a question of quality of sound but also the phasing which is poor. Try watching the parade from the hub - the bleed is awful. >>> The audio on the jtcent.com video certainly seemed jumbled, but I attributed that to the camera being between two zones - there's not much you can do about that. Regarding the hub, I guess I never noticed that since I rarely watch a parade from the hub. When I saw it live, I didn't really notice sound problems (other than not particularly liking the soundtrack :-)).
79	SuperDry Mon 4/21/2008 11:09a	<<< Not everything should be character-driven which is the case for the vast majority of special events these days. >>> Would you put the "synergy" aspect that's going on in the US parks in the same category, or is it something different? Iger has made it clear that any new major addition to the parks (or perhaps just the MKs) is going to have a tie-in with other Disney intellectual properties, especially the movies. I see the obvious reasons for doing this, but it also removes something that was special from the parks: stories and environments that existed only in the parks such that there was only one place to experience them. I think it's just a little less special if all you get is a physical manifestation of the 5 most recent Disney/Pixar blockbusters.
80	leemac Mon 4/21/2008 11:48a	<<I'm willing to bet that the Ikspiari merchants will appreciate it, especially the restaurants. >> I tend to avoid the place like the plague - I really detest it but even I was shocked at how many tenants have pulled out recently. I must have missed the likes of J. Crew pulling out. I think I counted 12 new outlets in the past month (not literally - on the posters launching the stores!) and considering there are no new units then I presume they are all replacements. Good news that there are companies out there wishing to be in Ikspiari but not good that they never seem to last long. That said I only discovered the grocery store and Maruzen in the basement on this trip. Shows you have observant I am! Usually only visit Monsoon when eating there - but found a great Japanese on this trip that we ate at - it is on the same level as Monsoon but tucked in the corner overlooking the roadway to the park. Excellent food - especially for a veggie! Still hate the place though and would rather do to the local mall. Great curry there. :-)

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