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| jonvn
Wed 3/5/2008 4:21p | To quote a supposed "six figure" employee who threw a tirade at me:
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The truth is that it makes no diference what either you or I think.
We will just keep expanding and building and continue to increase attendance.
Oh and guess what expect to see more cartoons in Paris and Tokyo.
Guess they do not agree with you either.
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So they DO NOT CARE what you think as a customer. Not only do they not care, when you tell them you don't like it, they throw a tantrum. Or two or three.
Remember that: THEY DO NOT CARE.
THEY. DO. NOT. CARE.
So take the history, and your interests, and your devotion, and your knowledge and place it...somewhere...because they don't care about you or your opinions, or anyone else's. They are inept, and fiercely proud of being so.
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| FerretAfros
Wed 3/5/2008 5:24p | "...Jungle Cruise has been joked up and teched out..."
The jokes I will agree with as a change over time of the Jungle Cruise, but I think that's part of the charm of it. I don't believe for a second that Walt didn't aprove of the humorous scenes added late in his life (Trapped Safari, Elephant Bathing Pool). They have taken it in a direction geared more toward humor, but I think that's for the better. Especially in today's cynnical society it's almost impossible to get a realistic environment, which makes it a lot easier to just make a fun little trip out of it. I doubt anybody learned anything about giraffes by looking at the fiberglass replicas swaying back and forth.
As for technology, yah. The piranhas on a stick are the epitome of high tech. The gun blasts added in the last redo also are hardly high tech, as they are the same idea as the cannonballs on POTC, except less advanced (no lights in them). AA's have been added, but they were definately the simplest ones available, and were around in the over-emotionalized Walt Era. |
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| oc_dean
Wed 3/5/2008 11:09p | >>I'm not particularly interested in going to a Disneyland that would put the animated characters (even the old ones) or an "America room" into DL's iasw. They had plenty of characters available to them in 1963 when the ride was created, and they deliberately chose to leave them out, for reasons which I would hope would be obvious to even the most money-addled executive or technology-besotted imagineer. And the folks in charge now think they're qualified to second-guess that decision?<<
Couldn't agree more!
You know .. it was one thing to add Johnny Depp, Geoffrey Rush, and Bill Nighy's characters to life in PotC....
but there's so much going in Pirates of the Caribbean .... the main story (at least for me) isn't too muddled from the original.
With 'it's a small world' ... it's different.
There's one single story that DELICATELY weaves the whole attraction together.
Just sing the song to yourself .. and you'll get my point.
This isn't just about "enhancing" or "plussing" ... it does change the focus.
That _single_ (delicate) story will get more lost than the other character driven "enhancements" done on other attractions.
Dbitz2 said it great too!
'Character' saturation has hit such an incredible high ....
To me this is yet another bone headed decision like the one's they seem to keep making like two of the worst attractions in WDW's Tomorrowland ... not to mention the nearly all cartoon HKDL Tomorrowland .. and I wouldn't doubt someone told OLC it was a "good idea" to fit Monsters Inc. Hide and Seek into TDL's Tomorrowland. |
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| oc_dean
Wed 3/5/2008 11:21p | You know ... it seems our focus is so trained on the Disney characters, even with little kids ...
there's going to be nothing "subtle" or "small" when our focus will be drawn to the all new: IT'S A DISNEY CHARACTER WORLD AFTER ALL attraction. |
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| oc_dean
Wed 3/5/2008 11:29p | Go ahead and think I'm off my rocker...
but as far as I'm concerned ....
There is a fine line between "enhancements" and "fundamental change".
And I DO have an imagination where I can think this through (I don't have to "wait and see") ......... and I really feel this is that one time that alters the perception of this timeless classic!
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| oc_dean
Wed 3/5/2008 11:48p | My final thought for the evening ;) ...
to me ... the Disney characters do not add to the ride's unifying (realistic) theme ....
they only distract within the fantasy worlds they individually come from .... from their perspective animated features.
Whatever happened with the "Disney experience" that resonated on a more deeper level ........... beyond the "2D" worlds of animated characters?
At least with the dolls in the ride that represented REAL children .... it gives me a more _profound_ emotion.
I'm not just looking for another excuse to see more Disney characters ... as if the Disneyland daily experience does not have enough of them already! |
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| oc_dean
Wed 3/5/2008 11:53p | edit:
Whatever happened with the "DisneyLAND experience"...... |
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| u k fan
Thu 3/6/2008 2:35a | <<<He's big, lime-green, furry, and standing there twirling his tail. I can't find a picture of him though...>>>
I think the DLP version might be different. He's yellow and has flowers spotted over him (hence the leopard tag). He has one hand on his hip and the other is holding a pink(?) umbrella.
I can't find a picture either, but if WDCC ever make one I'll buy it!!! |
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| gurgitoy2
Thu 3/6/2008 7:12a | "I think the DLP version might be different. He's yellow and has flowers spotted over him (hence the leopard tag). He has one hand on his hip and the other is holding a pink(?) umbrella."
Yeah, that one is different. I've seen him, and I think the one at Disneyland is cuter. |
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| gurgitoy2
Thu 3/6/2008 7:54a | Ok, here's a Youtube vide of the attraction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
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At 8:55 you can see the green Jaguar, and he's definately different from the one at DLP. This clip is from the "Disneyland goes to the World's Fair" episode of "Wonderful World of Color", which is also now on DVD.
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