Tokyo Disneyland
Topic: April 15, who's going?

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161	TDR_Fan Wed 4/23/2008 10:43a	<<Personally I think it will be easy for the restaurant to establish itself as the finest at the resort. Oceano and Magellans may be popular and acceptable but neither are exceptional these days. TDR doesn't have anything that compares to the top options at DLRP/WDW/DLR. I would also put Crystal Lotus at HKDLR up there>> I think the big problem is getting the Japanese chefs to create something that appeals to other audiences instead of adjusting everything to their own tastes. It's perfectly understandable of course, but that may be the reason why they don't excel with Continental/Western cuisine. But seeing as how Canna is serving a blend of that and Asian, there is a chance that it could compete with Napa Rose and co. After all, you mentioned that you were impressed with the Chinese cuisine at the Crystal Lotus (not a big fan of Chinese food myself to be honest).
162	SuperDry Wed 4/23/2008 10:51a	<<< I think the big problem is getting the Japanese chefs to create something that appeals to other audiences instead of adjusting everything to their own tastes. >>> But unlike the other Disney resorts, TDR's clientele is almost all domestic (96% is the number I'm remembering), so it would make perfect sense if the menus are tuned to their tastes. Having said that, unlike what was determined for HKDL ("Chinese people want Chinese food"), TDR's food offerings are very much from around the world, despite the guests being almost all domestic, although the items may be adjusted for local tastes.
163	TDR_Fan Wed 4/23/2008 12:17p	Agreed. I find the choice of foods to be extremely diverse and very good despite minor Japanese influences. I'm sure the local guests must have a different opinion of the restaurants than us foreigners. That being said, I've yet to be disappointed by any eatery at the resort.
164	leemac Wed 4/23/2008 12:18p	<<96% is the number I'm remembering >> It is actually even higher - 97%.
165	Mr X Wed 4/23/2008 7:41p	Well, having an excellent Chinese restaurant in China is easy enough, I'd say. Just hire a great chef. As for the fusion thing in Japan, I think they do an okay job with foreign cuisine, not Italian though >:(, but anyway it's decent...but yes they cater to Japanese tastes that's for sure. Why not have an excellent JAPANESE restaurant in the hotel? Why is it any different from the Crystal Lotus thing? And yes, HKDL was rather shocking in its approach. I didn't care for that much (though the food was good), I think Disney should offer variety with a Western style approach. But maybe no Chinese people would even sample such stuff, I dunno. I'd be a bit put off if, for example, they served octopus on a stick at TDL instead of churros...even though that may be more to the Japanese liking. ;p
166	Mr X Wed 4/23/2008 7:43p	Lee, you'd probably know more about this...why is HKDL so much more focused on Chinese food in comparison to TDR? Will Chinese people really NOT eat anything else or something? Do they have many foreign cuisine restaurants in Hong Kong at all? Are they popular?
167	TDR_Fan Wed 4/23/2008 8:09p	<<Will Chinese people really NOT eat anything else or something?>> Well, they certainly seem to favor their own cuisine above all others. But that's not to say they won't try something different every now and then.
168	TDR_Fan Wed 4/23/2008 8:35p	Oh and if you don't mind answering, I have a few more questions for you Lee. Does the lobby of the TDL Hotel feature stained glass domes like those in the Grand Floridian and HKDL Hotel? You mentioned before that there is a lot of public space, so I'm assuming there is plenty of seating in the atrium? Also, does Canna bear a slight resemblance to the Crystal Lotus design-wise? I know that the latter is also designed with a flower motif and has several "tricks" in the restaurant. Now that I think about it, they seem to have borrowed heavily from the HKDL Hotel- everything in the TDL Hotel seems to be a scaled up version of what was designed in Hong Kong. Which is good, since I much prefer the interior design of the HKDL Hotel over the one in Paris and the Grand Floridian.
169	SuperDry Wed 4/23/2008 8:36p	What I find interesting about the HKDL situation is that the park was built out with primarily Chinese food venues from the very beginning. I could see if it was opened with a more traditional mix (by Disney park standards) of food, and then they had to change it after finding out that guests didn't like what was offered, but how did they come to the conclusion before opening that Chinese guests would overwhelmingly want food from their own country, especially in an entirely new and foreign venue such as a Disney Magic Kingdom? I guess one answer might be "market research" but then they seemed to get a lot of other things wrong based on their research, now didn't they?
170	Mr X Wed 4/23/2008 8:44p	Another question would be, did TDL have such a mix of foods from day one, or did it evolve over time? I know that it was nice and diverse as far back as 1998, my first trip, but I've no idea what it was like those first fifteen years.

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