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| Sport Goofy Mon 4/7/2008 12:56p | << Not sure I want to see meth-addicted, toothless carnies running "fixed" games using weighted down metal milk bottles so the softballs can't possibly knock 'em over, or flat plates coated in PAM so the dimes don't stick, or dull darts that can't possibly burst a balloon... or... >>
A lot of people would have said the exact same thing about the portrayal of drunken pirates burning a Caribbean port. How did Disney ever pull that off? That's exactly the reason why I provided the example of what Marc Davis did with that source material. There's a lot you can do if you use your imagination. Imagine if POTC was nothing more than a cartoony display of Captain Hook and Mr. Smee. |
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| Jim in Merced CA Mon 4/7/2008 1:23p | <A lot of people would have said the exact same thing about the portrayal of drunken pirates burning a Caribbean port. How did Disney ever pull that off? That's exactly the reason why I provided the example of what Marc Davis did with that source material. There's a lot you can do if you use your imagination.>
Amen to that sentiment, SportGoofy. Totally agree.
With Midway Mania, there's really nothing that the Toy Story gang adds to the attraction.
Disney could have easily slapped on characters from 'Aladdin' [imagine Genie as a carnival barker], and the theme could have been the streets of Agrabah, and the sky overhead.
But when you do what SportGoofy suggests -- then you have something creative.
It's the difference between writing an orchestral suite of music for the Sunshine Plaza that suggests California [creative], and grabbing pop music songs with 'California' in the title. [not so creative] |
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| Kar2oonMan Mon 4/7/2008 1:38p | >>or flat plates coated in PAM so the dimes don't stick<<
Well, another mystery explained! I knew my aim wasn't THAT bad all these years! |
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| Kar2oonMan Mon 4/7/2008 1:42p | One thing they could have done is create a dark ride that explored life at the beach through the years. Set it to a catchy tune that goes from turn of the century ragtime to perhaps 50's rock & roll -- we could see the "life" of Paradise Pier change through the years, and we exit into the Paradise Pier of today. Then, they populate the pier with other immersive attractions that continue to tell the story of the place and have it blend seamlessly into the Pacific Wharf area. |
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| WilliamK99 Mon 4/7/2008 1:46p | Kar2oonman, what you are suggesting would take years of planning and development...
Whereas, anyone with half a brain cell can add characters to a ride in just a fraction of that time. |
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| wonderingalice Mon 4/7/2008 1:47p | ^^*LOL*... Glad to help, 2oony!
Sport Goofy... I really do get your point and was pretty much just goofin' on the carnies (though that's the way the are now and have been for YEARS). The imagineers could have gone back to around the Victorian age when the guys were just loud-mouthed "unsavory" snake-oil-salesmen-types in straw hats and not completely disgusting pervs. *L* |
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| Kar2oonMan Mon 4/7/2008 2:04p | >>what you are suggesting would take years of planning and development<<
Yeah. Plus, it sticks with the California-based theme of the park, and that appears to be pretty much going bye-bye. |
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| dshyates Mon 4/7/2008 3:31p | I have to admit that part of my underwhelment is my lack of interest in anamophic robots. In the 60s robots were the shizzle. They were a wonder you could only see on TV and at Disneyland. Now, I have an extremely realistic Roboreptar running around my recliner as I type. The AA is without a doubt impressive, but it is the utilization that doesn't impress me as in that is all it is really for is to stand there and go "Wow, thats one high tech potato." I think they really need to go back to the EPCOT Center concept of what AAs are for. To tell stories. I truely feel the apex of AAs in a theme park setting came in 1982 where Ben and Will tell the story of America. Sure we all said WOW at Will Rogers spinning a lasso, and Benn quasi-walking, but there was more to it than just saying wow of tech, we said wow over the whole scope of the entertainment. I really hope they get this reality show mentality of interactivity out of their heads and go back to scripted, hammer-out, tailor made storytelling. |
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| FerretAfros Mon 4/7/2008 4:45p | "Admits I am biased as I used to be a clown to make extra money as a student and later when I was a Social Worker."
Hmmm...interesting way to make sure you would always have customers. Get paid to scare them to death so they live life with irrational fears, and then get paid a gain to help them get over said irrational fears...I like it!
"..and Benn quasi-walking..."
He always looked like he was limping to me. And he climbs the stairs oh-so gracefully too! |
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| SoThisIsLove Mon 4/7/2008 4:57p | Oh, Ferret! LOL! (I'm afraid of clowns, too.) |