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Topic: 'Superbad' -- what the heck? hated it

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41	Jim in Merced CA Tue 4/15/2008 1:56p	<And I know that someone like Jim isn't saying they're a prude who's deeply offended by all bad language. I guess I'm just wondering, how much is too much? If we're not bothered by a little, then why be bothered by a lot?> Excellent point, ecdc. You got me thinking. I don't think of myself as a prude, but maybe I am. What I've determined is that content in movies and what bothers us or doesn't bother us is subjective. And maybe that's obvious. 'The Departed' [which I did see] involved crooked cops, drug dealers, and organized crime hoodlums -- I expected to hear the 'F' word in a movie like that. And to see poor treatment of women. With 'Superbad' -- I apparently missed the memo that it had such raunchy content. Not just language. That chubby kid was so foul and so over-the-top misogynistic, that I wanted to kick his chubby little face in. And it wasn't the fact that he used the 'F' word -- it was his disgusting comments toward women. Richard Roeper said in his review that the script for 'Superbad' is 'intelligent.' I couldn't disagree more. The script wasn't cute, or clever, or well-written. It was just gross. Take 'Swingers' -- a very funny movie, with a great script [Vince Vaughn, John Favreau and his buddies.] Sure, Vince Vaughn's character is piggish, and is always on the make, and there is some language, but overall there's something about this group of guys that I found endearing. Underneath all their bravado, was a group of guys who do care about the girls. 'Superbad' -- all three of those guys were just idiots. I just didn't see them caring. So, in closing, it's the content. Not necessarily the use of the 'F' word.
42	Liberty Belle Tue 4/15/2008 1:59p	I didn't hate Superbad, but I didn't really like it. I saw it because of Michael Cera, who I like, and I liked him in this movie. I didn't know Jonah Hill at the time, but I've seen him in a couple more things since then and I really can't stand him. He plays the same completely unlikeable character in every movie. Also, I've heard interviews with him and it seems like in real life he's exactly the same sort of vulgar guy who sees women as nothing more than sex objects, which doesn't help. Then again, I HATED Knocked Up! I'd heard so much hype and laughed about twice. I quite liked the 40 Year Old Virgin, though.
43	FiveBearRugs Tue 4/15/2008 7:18p	^^^^I agree Catfish...I got around to renting Knocked Up and went "eh"...yes, it was nice that slobby Seth was responsible and stayed with mama Katherine, but it really didn't appeal to me. I really liked the 40-Year-Old Virgin and once you pass the swearing and nudity, you really do have a cool story with Steve Carrell's character and the woman he falls in love with. That and the chest waxing. :) I liked Superbad, and I'm used to the swearing in these teen films. I didn't hear kids swear in school until I got to junior high. In fact, there were kids who started "going out" with each, and doing other things that most of us thought were cool back then. Nevertheless, yes, Jonah Hill's character really started to annoy me, and Michael Cera's sensitive character was cool; I'm REALLY surprised that no one has mentioned McLovin, or some of the other scenes in the film. I did like the final scene where Jonah and Michael's characters were at the mall. It looks like the Stiller/Vaughn/Ferrell/Wilson Bros. combo has simmered down for the time being, and we may have Frat Pack v2.0 going on here with Seth Rogen, Steve Carrell, Jonah Hill, Paul Rudd, Judd Apatow and Bill Hader: -40 Year Old Virgin: Carrell, Rogen, Apatow, Rudd -Superbad: Rogen, Hader, Apatow, Hill -Horton Hears a Who: Carrell, Rogen, Hill -Knocked Up: Rogen, Hill, Hader -Forgetting Sarah Marshall: Apatow, Rudd, Hill
44	FiveBearRugs Tue 4/15/2008 7:24p	I had forgotten that Mindy Kaling (Kelly Kapoor in the US "Office") and Jonah Hill both appeared in "Virgin"...
45	Kar2oonMan Tue 4/15/2008 7:52p	>>I didn't hear kids swear in school until I got to junior high.<< I must have grown up on the wrong side of the tracks. We talked pretty much like the guys in "Superbad" by 1st grade.
46	Kar2oonMan Tue 4/15/2008 7:56p	'Superbad' -- all three of those guys were just idiots. I just didn't see them caring.<< They were idiots, and they didn't care. They were taking their situation (lowest rung on the social ladder: geeky nerd) and attempting to make lemonade out of it. Not honorable or anything, and certainly nothing to be attempted in real life, but that was the basic comedic premise of the movie.
47	Inspector 57 Tue 4/15/2008 9:32p	This conversation is so good that I'm tempted to see the movie just so that I can join in. But, based on the comments here... I think I'll just watch my "Very Brady Sequel" DVD again. F-bomb cluster-attacks in movies don't phase me. (See: "The Commitments," "Blair Witch Project," et al.) But I can't enjoy movies in which jerks are presented as being impishly loveable ("Risky Business," "Ferris Beuhler's Day Off," et al.)
48	Kar2oonMan Tue 4/15/2008 9:34p	Ferris Beuhler WAS loveable. Save Ferris!
49	ecdc Tue 4/15/2008 10:41p	>>With 'Superbad' -- I apparently missed the memo that it had such raunchy content. Not just language. That chubby kid was so foul and so over-the-top misogynistic, that I wanted to kick his chubby little face in. And it wasn't the fact that he used the 'F' word -- it was his disgusting comments toward women.<< Great point. Movies really are about expectations. I knew how raunchy it was going in, so perhaps that helped temper my expectations a bit. That's partly why Roger Ebert gave Superbad 3 and a half starts, but might have also given a movie like No Country for Old Men or There Will Be Blood a similar rating. He's not really saying that they're equally good; he's saying that Superbad surprised him, and that the Oscar nominee merely did what he expected. Expectations play a huge role. Now I have to watch it again and figure out why I wasn't offended by Jonah Hill's attitude towards women. I probably should have been, but maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention.
50	Lisann22 Wed 4/16/2008 7:34p	I thought there were some hysterical parts in the movie but I found the chubby kid to be obnxious. Yet I remember jr high and I can remember kids like this. I got a pretty funky mouth but I thought as in Knocked Up it was on the excessive side. Then I remember dinner tonight at a respectable restaurant in Atlanta where the table next to me were 5 20something guys dropping F bombs all over the place. Loud and obnxious clueless that they could be considered offense. See Juno Jim in Merced - awesome flick!!!

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