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Topic: Believers: What would change your mind?

#	Author	Message
41	mrkthompsn Thu 4/24/2008 6:59p	unless one changes the definition of "year"
42	Mr X Thu 4/24/2008 7:14p	Sure, but then by definition it would simply be age-adjusted. An arbitrary number. Why would you change the definition of a year though? And in particular, are you trying to say that the Earth orbited the sun at a much faster pace during the dawn of mankind?
43	DyGDisney Thu 4/24/2008 7:50p	What if you have complete faith in God and the Bible, you take it at it's word and Adam and Noah, as well as others, did live that long as it said. There is a verse in the Bible where God says he is limiting the lifespan of humans. I think it's because the earth begins to fill with people. The reason for God allowing some of the early people on Earth to live so long would be to produce more offspring. Adam because he was the first man, Noah because his family had to re-populate the earth after the great flood. There is a way, Mr. X, if you believe in God and believe He can make anything happen. Then you believe there is a way. If you don't believe in God, well then it would be hard to believe. Whether or not you believe it is the point. I have a hard time with some of the old testament. So happy my pastor is going through the book of Genesis (slowly) and says whether or not you take it literally is NOT a salvation issue. In other words, it won't keep you from salvation.
44	DyGDisney Thu 4/24/2008 9:02p	My last post was referring to Mr. X's post 40.
45	Mr X Thu 4/24/2008 9:26p	***So happy my pastor is going through the book of Genesis (slowly) and says whether or not you take it literally is NOT a salvation issue.*** How would he know? He's just some pastor right? Maybe others would say it IS an issue. After all, if there is a god and everything in the bible IS somehow true, it would be pretty insulting not to take his word for it wouldn't it? Seems like a salvation issue to me.
46	teddibubbles Fri 4/25/2008 12:20a	here is my poem. ( Im trying to address a few questions here!) WHERE IS YOUR LOVE? ------------- I AM ! the lord your god! I was before the beginning. and shall be after the end. I created the heavens and the earth. and all living creatures. I made a place full of goodness. I filled the earth with surprises, shining stones, minerals, caves, coves, shells, towering trees, mountains, fields, the pounding sea, I made all plants and animals. and I made man. like little children they would play and laugh as they tamed the animals I gave them. or smile with delight with every new discovery they would make. like a child in their wonder at every shining stone under the ground or to find a shining star in the heavens above. I was vary happy as there father. and loved every heart felt praise they would share with me. it made my heart happy to share ALL I could with them! all I ever hoped for ! was their love! for all that I gave them. and to love me as their father. I tried to walk with them. but suddenly they changed! they avoided me and no longer called me father! they said the world was theirs. and started destroying all I had created for them. they said this is my life! and they didn't need me! and hurt and killed each other ( acting as angry children do. not thinking of the end results. ) I sent my profits to tell them I still love them. and how much I wanted their love. but they laughed at them and killed them. finally they no longer believed in me ( it hurt so bad! ) so I sent them the best I have ( MY MOST BELOVED SON ! JESUS ! ) surely they would listen to him? but they wouldn't. they rejected him , cussed at him , spit on him , and beat him to a pulp. and finally they crucified him ( MY SON !! ) I was so angry I wanted to destroy it all! but my son said FATHER FORGIVE THEM . FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO. so I gave him the power to decide who is mine. for he has felt their pain. and can rightusly judge their hearts. so now they have had the best of my love and ( ALL ) I had to give. SO I ASK> WHERE IS YOUR LOVE ? writen by The lord shining in my heart C,R,S ---------------
47	DyGDisney Fri 4/25/2008 10:59a	Well, I guess he doesn't REALLY know, but in the Bible it says if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you will be saved. In our church, we believe that is the one and only way to salvation, so he is basing it on that. If I didn't agree, I wouldn't go to that church.
48	RoadTrip Fri 4/25/2008 11:49a	<<There is a way, Mr. X, if you believe in God and believe He can make anything happen. Then you believe there is a way. If you don't believe in God, well then it would be hard to believe.>> I believe in God but do not feel any need to take the Bible literally. It seems perfectly natural to me that God would speak in allegories understandable by people of that time. Sure, He could have gone all Techno-God-Geeky on us and given long, detailed, scientifically correct descriptions of everything that happened in the Bible. But you know what? No one would have read it. Have you ever read the User Manual for a computer application? Of course not. Same thing applies here. It's God for gosh sake. You telling me he wouldn't go for a best-seller?
49	DyGDisney Fri 4/25/2008 12:17p	^^^LOL, RT.
50	plpeters70 Fri 4/25/2008 12:36p	"It seems perfectly natural to me that God would speak in allegories understandable by people of that time." This seems to be the current majority thought on the Bible amongst, shall we say, more "intelligent" Christian demoninations. But, to me, it just seems like another attempt to make the Bible "fit" into the facts we know about the world, and still maintain a belief in a personal God. I just wonder how far these churches can "stretch" the belief in the accuracy of the Bible before it breaks.

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