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| EighthDwarf
Thu 5/1/2008 7:19p | Got it josh. You believe in the allegiance part, just not the endless misery. So what happens if you swear to obey all of god's laws and then go back on everything you sweared on? I thought I remembered a certain individual (Satan) saying something about that in a film I watched once upon a time... |
142
| EighthDwarf
Thu 5/1/2008 7:21p | <<If god is all-powerful, why should there be any sort of eternal laws he has to follow?>>
I imagine there are eternal laws but they are more like gravity than having to dunk your head in water. Science has laws, religion has superstition.
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143
| utahjosh
Thu 5/1/2008 8:10p | Dwarf, I'm done with you. I was keeping in step to proclaim truth, but you've gone into attack mode and I'm not going to play that game. |
144
| Mr X
Thu 5/1/2008 8:20p | I don't know about anyone else, but that watching films thing seems really kitschy to me...very cultish.
Is that why you're angry, Josh? Because he brought up some films?
I think it's interesting that you generally enter into these talks to proclaim what you believe in but then when someone starts getting too specific in refuting your statements you get angry and storm off. |
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| utahjosh
Thu 5/1/2008 10:49p | It's true that the Temple ceremony is not something I"m willing to discuss in this forum. I'd discuss it further in a personal setting with you, but not here. I wouldn't discuss everything about it with you.
And I "storm off" when Eighth or others go from person conversation to their "tried and true" anti-mormon jargon, popular quotes, and the like. I don't want to waste my time re-hashing those popular anti-mormon topics time and time again.
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146
| pecos bill
Thu 5/1/2008 11:16p | Well, you guys know that none of us are ever going to budge in our opinions.
I have been reading on Einstein, and his take, although basically atheistic, shows that he was still utterly amazed by the whole thing.
The moral is, if Einstein couldnt figure it out, it probably cant be figured out, at least not with our limited capacity.
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147
| ChurroMonster
Fri 5/2/2008 1:17a | I think Jesus like to grow flowers in his garden and he HATES those pesky bugs that eat his flowers and he steps on them and he giggles a little. Then he steps on them again. But his flowers sure are pretty. He likes to smell them while he watches temple movies and drinks water. |
148
| EighthDwarf
Fri 5/2/2008 10:46a | <<Dwarf, I'm done with you. I was keeping in step to proclaim truth, but you've gone into attack mode and I'm not going to play that game.>>
I was not attacking, just challenging your statement. Everything you say portrays your religion as the prefect feel-good religion. I don't agree that it is and when I hear you say something I don't believe is correct I challenge you on it.
Sorry if that upsets you. I suppose we are approaching the discussion differently. You are hoping to preach your message to anyone who will listen while I challenge the message.
It sucks when you have "answers" for everything and someone questions whether they are the correct answers or not. |
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| EighthDwarf
Fri 5/2/2008 10:47a | <<I think it's interesting that you generally enter into these talks to proclaim what you believe in but then when someone starts getting too specific in refuting your statements you get angry and storm off.>>
Thanks X, glad you noticed. |
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| utahjosh
Fri 5/2/2008 11:20a | Again, I "storm off" when people go from person conversation to their "tried and true" anti-Mormon jargon, popular quotes, and the like. I don't want to waste my time re-hashing those popular anti-Mormon topics time and time again. |
