| # | Author | Message |
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| trekkeruss
Tue 4/29/2008 12:01a | <<If it wasn't a commercial impetus, please explain the artistic impetus.>>
The implication that I've heard is that Disney is only adding the characters to sell more stuff. What I am saying is that they are adding the characters to keep the ride fresh... that of course is commercial in the sense that they want more people to visit the park.
<<There is an artistic impetus as to why ALL the dolls are children>>
I've already established that not all the dolls are children. |
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| dshyates
Tue 4/29/2008 12:07a | "I've already established that not all the dolls are children."
I missed that part of one of these many threads so if you could recap, it would be greatly appreciated. |
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| trekkeruss
Tue 4/29/2008 12:07a | <<It AINT etched into stone yet.>>
True, but I think you may be overestimating the amount of anger over this. Anyway, as you say, we shall see. |
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| oc_dean
Tue 4/29/2008 12:12a | >>What I am saying is that they are adding the characters to keep the ride fresh.<<
Fresh? LOL ;)
The library of Disney Characters are going on 85 years old (1923-2008) ... they're looking pretty dusty and old to me. ;)
Another thing about it making it "fresh" ... It's more like 'same old, same old'. You see the Disney characters everywhere in park already. But we've been down that road already. |
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| trekkeruss
Tue 4/29/2008 12:14a | <<I missed that part of one of these many threads so if you could recap, it would be greatly appreciated.>>
There are mermaids in the ride, as well as animals. Also, apparently there is a video of Walt Disney pointing out that one of the dolls represents Don Quixote, who is clearly an adult. So if Don Quixote can be made into a child-like doll, I don't see why Cinderella can't also be (which is an argument I have seen put forth, that there cannot be adults portrayed as dolls.) |
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| trekkeruss
Tue 4/29/2008 12:18a | <<Fresh? LOL ;)>>
Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean it won't be for some, perhaps many, people.
<<You see the Disney characters everywhere in park already.>>
I've already said that I think Disney is relying too much on character-driven ideas. I just also happen to feel like of all the places they could do it, this doesn't strike me as bad. |
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| oc_dean
Tue 4/29/2008 12:18a | >>I've already established that not all the dolls are children.<<
Poster "members only" had some extremely astute "artistic" statements found here in posts 595 and 598:
http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...P-60.asp
I think he/she nails it pretty good ...
in his/her understanding 'it's a small world's artistic integrity.
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| trekkeruss
Tue 4/29/2008 12:33a | I read that post before... and I think it's a poor defense (or offense, depending on how you see it.) There could easily be different elements that could serve as an artistic transition other than mermaids. Why not whales, or dolphins, or sea turtles?
So with that said, if mermaids can be a great transition, why can't, for example, Aladdin and Jasmin on a flying carpet help represent the culture of the Middle East? |
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| oc_dean
Tue 4/29/2008 1:09a | The more recognizable Disney characters you add .. the more you get away from the attraction's original theme.
I can't make it more simpler than that.
The mermaids are nondescript ... as the rest of the 'it's a small world' cast is.
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| dshyates
Tue 4/29/2008 6:23a | OK, so Don Quixote is in IASW, and yes he is an adult. I was wrong on that one. But that does go along with my feeling that I don't really have a problem with the additions of characters of historical context to the country they are to be placed in Don Quixote is acharacter of Cervantes. The most famous Spanish author. And I don't have a problem with including Mulan or Pocahantas because are real historical figures. Alice and the White Rabbit from the famous English author Lewis Carroll, Peter and Tink, english author J. M. Barre. Even Cinderella has her roots in european folklore.
OK we get that. Now justify Stitch, Buzz, and Woody. |
