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Topic: Miley Cyrus' Vanity Fair photo

#	Author	Message
61	dshyates Tue 4/29/2008 9:03a	"Traditionally and generally when women, not men, accentuate their lips with red lipstick what is the underlying idea?" To be pretty? I'm pretty sure its not to make their lips look like a baboon butt. The next time your wife puts on lipstick tell her her face is sexy like a baboon butt. See how quick you get laid.
62	utahjosh Tue 4/29/2008 9:24a	No one should be asking a 15 yr old girl to take her shirt off for a picture. Period.
63	barboy Tue 4/29/2008 9:47a	"To be pretty" yes, but more to the point, to attract---specifically males. Historically and generally that is fact. dsh, there is a reason why we do not put makeup on 3 year olds. You see it goes, usaully, much deeper than just making one prettier.
64	dshyates Tue 4/29/2008 10:24a	"Historically and generally that is fact." I am fully aware of this socioanthropological theory. But there are just as many who think the reverse is true. The baboon butt is red because we are attracted to red, not we are attracted to red because of monkey butts. When the trend of pinking up the lips started (in Egypt), it is now tought they did it to look healthy, not to look like a baboon vagina. The baboon theory is more interesting, but borders on Fraudian.
65	DyGDisney Tue 4/29/2008 10:35a	It's not the amount of skin that she's showing. She is not wearing a bathing suit sitting next to the pool. She is wrapped in a sheet, that with the fact that she is nude underneath makes it look like she's been in bed. 15 year olds don't typically sleep nude, do they? It is not innocent, nor is it meant to be.
66	Jim in Merced CA Tue 4/29/2008 10:35a	Let me preface, I'm a parent to a 13-year old daughter. When I heard about the 'topless' pictures in question, I was ready for anything...When I finally did see them, my reaction was, big deal. My wife had the same reaction. They're pictures. It's dress up. It's about as provocative as girls dressing up at Libby Liu. I don't view Libby Liu or the pictures in Vanity Fair as provocative. What I do think is laughable, is that all the adults here who seem to feel that it's okay for Miley Cyrus to be working in the first place. When Miley's on TV or in the 3-D movie, or touring -- parents love her. She's a role model for their daughters. But hear this. Miley Cyrus, is a 15 year old kid -- a child, and she's a working professional. She goes to work, and collects a paycheck. And somehow that's okay, because she's in Show Business. She's 'having fun.' It all goes back to the parents. And that's what I find so grotesque. The parents who decide to put their kids to work. Billy Ray Cyrus. And the parents of Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, Jodie Foster, Danny Bonaduce, Pamlyn Ferdin, and Paul Pedersen. To name but a few. All those parents had kids. And they put their children to work. And all those child stars are now psychologically wrecked as adults. So, as long as were being crass and talking about baboon's vaginas, let me just state that Billy Ray Cyrus allowing his daughher to 'go to work' in show business is in my mind, the equivalent to pimping her out. Now that's far grosser than a set of photographs.
67	DyGDisney Tue 4/29/2008 10:37a	I agree with utahjosh. 15 is far too young to be posing without a shirt. It is borderline porn, and it really should be stopped before the magazine reaches the shelf. See, I'm a prude too, but I'm okay with that. I have two little girls of my own. I would be horrified if either were to do something like this.
68	Dabob2 Tue 4/29/2008 10:59a	<And all those child stars are now psychologically wrecked as adults.> Everything I've read has said Jodie Foster is remarkably level-headed. I saw a former child-star show where they all got together and commiserated and it did seem like most of them were and/or are still messed up. But they all said Foster was sort of the role model for "best-case scenario" of child star and never let it get to her. Pamela Ferdin? Now there's a name I haven't seen in a while. She wasn't on this show, but I certainly remember her.
69	mele Tue 4/29/2008 11:01a	I don't necessarily like to say that kids should or shouldn't be in show business. I definitely thought that Billy Ray was pimping out his daughter at first, but after seeing Miley in concert, there is genuine talent there and you can see she loves what she's doing. And she's famous and rich and all of that stuff, which some people do think is important. I never wanted my kids to be in show business but I'm not completely disgusted by all children being in show business but it isn't something my children wanted. (Well, my 16 year old son wants to be a rock star.)
70	Jim in Merced CA Tue 4/29/2008 11:06a	<Everything I've read has said Jodie Foster is remarkably level-headed.> Okay. So perhaps Jodie Foster is 'level-headed.' I stand corrected. She's the one out of 750 child stars who 'survived' the industry. My larger point is that parents have no right to put their children to work. If I decided to pull my daughter out of school and put her to work stuffing envelopes and typing letters for my company, it'd be considered illegal. But in the ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY -- it's so FUN! And there's all this MONEY! And whoop-dee-doo! So, no matter how you slice it, Billy Ray Cyrus put Miley Cyrus to work. And in general, the public at large is okay with that. Which I find rather odd.

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