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Topic: Fox News: History At Its Best

#	Author	Message
21	dshyates Tue 4/29/2008 10:16a	Oh, and everyone has a bias, just not everyone enacts it into an agenda. Matthews, and Russert are without a doubt left leaning, but Olbermann crosses into agenda. I enjoy his show because I agree with him for the most part, but I am aware that his passion has crossed that line. I don't believe that the non FOX outlets are, as a policy, agenda driven like I do FOX. And I don't belive FOX is because of a strong morality basis, just that the Republicans are far more interested in huge multi-faceted single owner republican friendly media giants. Murdoch helps get them in office, they change the laws so Murdoch can own a larger percentage of the control over what info gets presented or more importantly not. Murdoch isn't the only player in this. Clear Channel has also at the behest of the administration controlled the content of their station. ""Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government." Thomas Jefferson 1789
22	Kar2oonMan Tue 4/29/2008 10:21a	>>So they weren't allowed to hire these people?? That makes little sense to me.<< They can hire whoever they like. But if your stable of "talent" seems to tilt way over to one side, then you can't say there is no bias, no agenda. You can point to several other networks and see their lineup of news analysts are off to the left. Clearly, there are a lot of people who enjoy getting information tilted to one side or the other. Fox caters to folks on the right. That's fine, but to pretend they don't doesn't make sense.
23	DAR Tue 4/29/2008 11:46a	Okay but addressing the topic at hand I'm hearing words like sinister behind the showing of a wrong photo. To me that's just a mistake. Unless people think Fox News is mostly conservative. Conservatives hate people of color, probably think they all look the same. Therefore Fox News must hate people of color.
24	dshyates Tue 4/29/2008 12:48p	From working in the news business I can tell you a mistake like that could almost never happen, and would certainly get you fired. I don't for a second believe it was a mistake. FOX viewers ARE dumb enough to PERCIEVE and uneducated enough to believe, "Oh yeah, the GREAT White Republican obviously won against that stupid "n word". Since most of them don't know Fredrick Douglas from Steven Douglas. Remember a picture is worth a thousand words.
25	DAR Tue 4/29/2008 1:14p	You actually believe what you wrote. You actually believe that a viewer from Fox News is that stupid. That's like saying well the audience for MSNBC, nothing but a bunch of flaming queers like that channel. Do you know how ignorant my statement or yours sounds?
26	dshyates Tue 4/29/2008 1:28p	I should have been more specific. Yes I do believe the average FOX viewer is that uneducated. As are the audiences of MSNBC, CNN, and American Idol. I would bet that less than 15 percent of Americans know the difference between Fredrick Douglas and Steven Douglas. But if pressed most could probably tell you that Lincoln did not debate a black presidential candidate in 1858.
27	Kar2oonMan Tue 4/29/2008 1:31p	>>Okay but addressing the topic at hand I'm hearing words like sinister behind the showing of a wrong photo.<< Oh yeah, I agree. It is just a blooper in this case, happens to everyone on TV sooner or later. I imagine taht the photos are all archived electronically for quick access. If someone enters "Douglas" instead of "Douglass" it can happen. If the person grabbing the photos doesn't know the difference to begin with, there you go. I don't think the on-air folks knew the difference either, because there was no reaction to the photos. It happens.
28	tiggertoo Tue 4/29/2008 2:28p	Holy crap! Talk about a faux pas. I have to wonder though if they actually believed that the Douglas in the L/D debates was Frederick Douglass and not Stephen Douglas. I certainly wouldn't be surprised. That would make for an brief debate, though: L: "The concept of African slavery and human chattel are a moral crime." D: "I know." L: "Oh yeah." BTW, just for trivial sake, note the unconventional spelling of his name.
29	tiggertoo Tue 4/29/2008 2:40p	Wait...I just had a thought about this. With all the talk of a L/D style debate between Obama and Clinton, maybe Fox was on to something-an innuendo of a sort. Because certainly Lincoln and Douglass were alike with regard to the question of slavery, the sole topic of the debate. Likewise, Clinton and Obama are virtually identical in nearly every substantive matter as well. So, while I don't really believe they actually thought this far into the proposition, and surely most Fox viewers wouldn't have caught it, it actually makes sense if you view it in an unorthodox, droll sort of way.
30	dshyates Tue 4/29/2008 3:43p	You'll notice that on MSNBC when they are doing political analysis they will use both Racheal Maddow and Pat Buchannon. When FOX News does it they turn to Karl Rove. They never show both sides. I am a news photog and it is standard policy to get interviews from both sides. Thats journalism 101. FOX does not do this. Ever. FOX News is no more a legitimate news organization than CBN.

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