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| alexbook
Tue 4/29/2008 7:58p | >>You mean like when CNN ran a graphis of Osama bin Laden with the boldly printed caption, "WHERE"S OBAMA?"
http://algraffix.nstemp.com/ob...<<
Classic. (I bet somebody did get fired over that.) |
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| DlandDug
Tue 4/29/2008 8:05p | >>You'll notice that on MSNBC when they are doing political analysis they will use both Racheal Maddow and Pat Buchannon. When FOX News does it... They never show both sides.
I am a news photog and it is standard policy to get interviews from both sides. Thats journalism 101. FOX does not do this. Ever...<<
Wrong again. (And I don't mean just about the spelling of the names "Rachel" and "Buchanan.")
Where you are (also) wrong is your assertion that Fox News never uses point/counterpoint interviews in their analysis. If they have a Republican strategist on, they will have a Democratic strategist. Susan Estrich, Juan Williams and Pat Caddell, among others regularly engage their conservative counterparts on Fox. (And for their trouble, are then accused of being DINOs.)
Never? Nah. |
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| DlandDug
Tue 4/29/2008 8:09p | >>Classic. (I bet somebody did get fired over that.)<<
No, they just apologized and everybody moved on.
http://www.breitbart.com/artic...rticle=1
Hilarious EXCERPT:
>>CNN called it a "bad typographical error" by its graphics department.<< |
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| DlandDug
Tue 4/29/2008 8:18p | Oh, and back on topic I finally looked at the clip, and found it is from the morning show Fox and Friends. Fox and Friends is essentially the equivalent of Live With Regis and Kelley, only with more people and a news reader. |
45
| dshyates
Tue 4/29/2008 8:46p | "P.S. I do hope that your work in the "news business" doesn't involve creating on screen graphics. One mistake and you'd be FIRED!!!"
No graphics, but I do have to enter lower 3rds. Which are the names that pop up under a talking head. And I am a horrible speller. But I check and recheck the spellings and title/rank. I don't know about all shops but the one I worked at the news director did not tolerate lazy mistakes like spelling errors. 2 mistakes in your lower 3rds and your suspended. 3 and its game over.
Don't call a trooper a deputy they hate that and we rely on them for ALL our news. |
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| dshyates
Tue 4/29/2008 9:01p | "Where you are (also) wrong is your assertion that Fox News never uses point/counterpoint interviews in their analysis. If they have a Republican strategist on, they will have a Democratic strategist. Susan Estrich, Juan Williams and Pat Caddell, among others regularly engage their conservative counterparts on Fox."
And you are correct that they do have Democratic stratigists on regularly. And I have to admit my bias clouded my perception earlier. But on a lot of current political happenings they will simply turn to just Karl Rove for an explaination of the events. To the best of my recollection I have never seen a counter-point analyst to Mr. Rove or even Newt for that matter.
But Douglas, you are correct, I got carried away with myself earlier. And for that I do apologize.
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| woody
Tue 4/29/2008 9:09p | >>But on a lot of current political happenings they will simply turn to just Karl Rove for an explaination of the events. To the best of my recollection I have never seen a counter-point analyst to Mr. Rove or even Newt for that matter.<<
Karl Rove is presented as an analyst who happens to be in an unique position of winning 2 consecutive presidential elections for Bush. He doesn't need a counterpoint. He is in a class of his own.
They also have Dick Morris regularly without counterpoint. He won the elections for Clinton. His point of view is clearly Clinton centric, and anti-Hillary, but not pro-Republican so the issue of a debate could not be useful.
Some contributors don't need to be debated. |
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| dshyates
Tue 4/29/2008 9:19p | "They also have Dick Morris regularly without counterpoint. He won the elections for Clinton. His point of view is clearly Clinton centric, and anti-Hillary, but not pro-Republican"
Dick Morris, Clinton centric? He hates the Clintons. He pretty much hates everyone in the Democratic party. He isn't per se pro-Republican. He does come on and rip the Deocratic candidates to shreds. If he is your example of the Democratic view that FOX offers I will agree. |
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| DlandDug
Tue 4/29/2008 9:29p | >>...I check and recheck the spellings and title/rank. I don't know about all shops but the one I worked at the news director did not tolerate lazy mistakes like spelling errors.<<
Wish there were more like him. The appalling spelling in news crawls irritates me greatly.
>>To the best of my recollection I have never seen a counter-point analyst to Mr. Rove or even Newt for that matter.<<
That is essentially true. (I don't regularly watch Fox, so I couldn't say for sure.) Rove is on staff for Fox, so I guess he is now a commentator, rather than an analyst.
And apology gladly accepted. |
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| retlawfan
Tue 4/29/2008 9:58p | For the record folks: I appreciate the tone that this discussion has taken. Cool heads rationally stating their points, and not being afraid to admit when they have crossed the line and said something wrong or inappropriate.
Thank you.
Is this really World Events?
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