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Topic: Fox News: History At Its Best

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51	Kar2oonMan Tue 4/29/2008 11:43p	>>The appalling spelling in news crawls irritates me greatly.<< Don't you just hate those news crawls in general? It was important to have them after 9/11, or after some major national event. But now they're used as promos for other shows on each network, and sports scores. So much graphic clutter all over most of the cable network news screens -- bleh!
52	woody Wed 4/30/2008 8:04a	>>Dick Morris, Clinton centric? He hates the Clintons.<< That comes with experience. He has knowledge about the Clintons unlike no other. >>He pretty much hates everyone in the Democratic party.<< This is untrue. He worked for both political parties. He would have no reason to be purely partisan.
53	Dabob2 Wed 4/30/2008 9:54a	Dick Morris is perhaps the best example I've ever seen of "political opportunist." He seems to have no convictions of his own and will forcefully argue just about any position, depending on who's signing his check on any given day.
54	planodisney Wed 4/30/2008 2:03p	What I dont understand is why so many topics about FOX News. The usual complaint is bias, and that liberals find this bias offensive. Yet, I never see any liberals post about the INSANE bias on MSNBC. Olberman is the most bias news program in the history of television, and the guy wont even ALLOW someone with a differing opinion on his show. The channel is very much in the tank for the Democratic party and as of recent history have joined the Obama campaign. Why no outrage at just how biased MSNBC is? I think many of you have been SOOOOO spoiled by constanttly being reaffirmed of your views by 95% of the mainstream media that you absolutely can't handle FOX news. It's like you have become spoiled brats. I dont think you hate bias, I think you can't stand a channel that doesnt constantly cater to your views.
55	imadisneygal Wed 4/30/2008 2:27p	It's not that I hate bias or news channels that do not cater to my point of view, it's that I dislike the whole, "we're not biased! We're fair and balanced!" It happens on most every news channel. It's not the bias, it's the lying about having a bias to begin with.
56	Dabob2 Wed 4/30/2008 3:10p	<Olberman is the most bias news program in the history of television,> Olbermann makes no bones about his bias. His show is in many ways an "answer" to (and somewhat modeled on) The O'Reilly Factor. O'Reilly is not news per se, he's a guy giving his spin on the day's news items, which is just what Olbermann does, and neither pretends to be doing anything else. They're each their network's 8:00 prime time show, they're primarily entertainment for their respective partisans, and neither program really pretends to be news per se. So that doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the bias that is all over Fox News when it's supposed to be presenting "straight" news. It's much more blatant than that of the straight news on the other channels. When Tony Snow moved from Fox News to being the Bush administration spokesman, you could hardly notice the difference.
57	dshyates Wed 4/30/2008 3:13p	"The usual complaint is bias, and that liberals find this bias offensive." Its not "bias" that is bothersome. It is agenda. And not so much agenda on an individual basis. Like Keith Olbermann and Beck. It is agenda based corporate policy. Particularly when the agenda and administrations are working hand in hand. Like FOX and Clear Channel control their content on the administrations behest and suddenly the laws guarding against media monopolies are drastically soften. " In 2003, the FCC voted, without any public input, to allow one company to own up to three television stations, the local newspaper, the cable system and up to eight radio stations in one media market" In 1983 there were there were 50 corporations that controlled 90% of the news content, In 2000 it was 37, by 2004 it was 6. (Time Warner, Disney, News Corporation (FOX), Bertelsmann of Germany, Viacom (CBS), General Electric (NBC), Clear Channel. "Yet, I never see any liberals post about the INSANE bias on MSNBC" Thats your job. Start pointing. And I do agree that MSNBC is biased and has in the past several years seamingly become much friendlier to the democratic party. And Obama specifically. And as far as Olbermann goes. Yep flaming bias. But he doesn't claim otherwise. He is a liberal democratic commentator. Similar to and no more biased than Glenn Beck. I personally think that agenda based opinion shows don't belong on legitimate news channels. I find a lot of speculative explanations are being offered. And the most common tool used by both side is to explain how the otherside thinks. ie: "The democrats want to take all your money and make everyone use food stamps that will be given for free, and they want a government store where you can redeem those food stamps on government cheese and wheat.", "The Republicans want to cut all the taxes, dismantal the public education system, get rid of all social servicies, and if you need food they may loan you a bullet so you can shoot dinner for your family."
58	planodisney Wed 4/30/2008 3:14p	The difference, is that opposing opinions are allowed on O'Reilly, and are not on Olberman. You dont see any difference in that. Also, olberman has never stated he is a liberal and backs the Democratic party, it is just evident in his bias reporting. Olberman is more like Hannity than O'Reilly, yet he never tells the audience, as Hannity does, that he whole heartidly subscribes to a particular political phylosophy. And, Hannity has a counterpoint on his show. There is NO FOX equivalent of Olberman.
59	gadzuux Wed 4/30/2008 3:15p	>> ... he's a guy giving his spin on the day's news items, which is just what Olbermann does, and neither pretends to be doing anything else. << Actually, o'reilly DOES pretend that he's presiding over the "no-spin zone". But as with the rest of fox news, everyone except for the most easily duped sees it for exactly what it is.
60	SingleParkPassholder Wed 4/30/2008 3:16p	"Olberman is the most bias news program in the history of television, and the guy wont even ALLOW someone with a differing opinion on his show." Oh please. Most biased? Surely you jest.

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