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Goofyernmost
Wed 5/7/2008 4:09a
I have to confess that I am one that finds abstract art unbelievably pompous and hinging on the edge of being a scam. It doesn't take talent to throw paint on a canvas and have it land wherever "physics" say it should. It just takes aim. (as in don't miss the canvas)

What takes talent that only a few are or have been capable of is to paint and/or draw things that look real or look to be a photograph. The enormous amount of talent and ability it takes to get the perspective, nuances and shadings so accurate that it is almost real, is indeed art. Norman Rockwell comes to mind, but many others had that talent as well. Rockwell's work could never be call abstract. There are others that when you look at the painting up close...it appears to be blotches of paint. Stand back and you have a highly detailed image. That takes talent. Splashing paint on an object is not art, it is just messy. If you like the colors then it has some value as a decorative piece, but, please don't call it art.

OK, everyone is now permitted to hit me with paint balls now and call me Art.
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davewasbaloo
Wed 5/7/2008 4:23a
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so is Art. Impressionism does little for me, but I appreciate why people like it (or my wife loves it). I personally prefer the master through oils. Or Adams, or Kincade. I do like my Art to look like what it is. But I also love surrealism and moderne movements - where does fine art stop and abstract begin?

Guernica by Picasso does little for me from a pictorial standpoint. But as a piece telling a story, it is a very moving piece.

I don't think using human blood or faeces as a media is very appealing, but some do. It is art, it is an expression. It just is not to my taste.

Even in the Disney cannon, I love the work of Davis or Coates, but Kimball and Blair are too simplistic for my liking.

But it is all Art. I personally think that Disneyland Paris is more artistic than what is in many museums. I admire Beauty and the Beast, Sleeping Beauty and Treasure Planet as works of art. Many critique me for just not having grown up.
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davewasbaloo
Wed 5/7/2008 4:24a
As for scams, I remember once at college we convinced people to stip down naked and roll around while we threw paint on a canvas in the name of art. Boy that was fun, and I got a date out of it too.

The proceeds of the painting went to charity!
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Jim in Merced CA
Wed 5/7/2008 7:20a
*sigh*

I feel like I'm in my Art Appreciation 101 class 25 years ago.

It cracks me up that some here feel they know what art is -- and what isn't!

Right on, man. Keep on truckin'
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mele
Wed 5/7/2008 7:22a
I think art is anything that brings people joy, makes them feel beauty or just interests them and/or makes them think. If we are drawn to it for some reason, it is art. If we use it to represent ourselves or decorate our homes, it is art. There is no one thing that can do that for every person. Not everything we love or are attracted to has to have a deep meaning or purpose. Just like music...it doesn't always have to be meaningful. Sometimes we just want beauty and fun.
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davewasbaloo
Wed 5/7/2008 8:16a
Lol Jim, it's still fun though, right?
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Jim in Merced CA
Wed 5/7/2008 8:32a
<What takes talent that only a few are or have been capable of is to paint and/or draw things that look real or look to be a photograph.>

That's only one type of art.

Do you people who believe this way also feel that way about music, dance, photography, architecture?
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davewasbaloo
Wed 5/7/2008 8:37a
Agreed, some people only like classical or hip hop. Others prefer an artist rather than a movement. And some like certain pieces. This equates to all art.
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Jim in Merced CA
Wed 5/7/2008 8:44a
well said in post #25 mele....
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Jim in Merced CA
Wed 5/7/2008 8:51a
Could the architecture of Disneyland be considered art?

Is the structure of Space Mountain an example of artistic beauty, or just popular kitsch?

Is 'Citizen Kane' considered art? While 'Iron Man' is just digital pablum?
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