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Topic: My Kid Could Paint That

#	Author	Message
41	Jim in Merced CA Wed 5/7/2008 10:17a	<I can't wait to hear what Jim's thoughts are on them!!!!> I like the Cy Twombly pictures. It's Art!! Just as much 'art' as the work of Picasso or Hockney or Mondrian or anyone else.
42	Dabob2 Wed 5/7/2008 12:51p	What one likes is always subjective. And art is indeed in the eye of the beholder. But did you see any of that "deep" stuff in it, a la "Through his paintings trickles a current of double nostalgia - on the one hand, for the closed-off "heroic" possibilities of Modernism and, on the other, for the ancient Mediterranean world, experienced at a remove by living in modern Italy. Love (or its facsimile) among the ruins. "???? That was what kinda made me smile at MoMA. Not the work itself - one can like that or not. But the pretentious twaddle that went along with it.
43	hightp Wed 5/7/2008 12:59p	If the Twombly pictures are art, then my 4th grade copybooks must be worth a fortune. But seriously, I don't particularly care for modern art, but the little girl's pictures have a certain charm and style. Art can be anything and it's very personal. I'd take a Renoir over a Picasso, and wouldn't spit on a Warhol if it was on fire, but I'd run into a burning building to save a picture my son or daughter did when they were 5. Around my neck of the woods, the Wyeth family of painters is revered. I've seen a lot of their originals and find them dull and drab. It's just not my style. On the other hand, give me a Disney Animation cel, and I'm happy as a pig in ...mud.
44	Goofyernmost Wed 5/7/2008 1:00p	>>>It reminds me of the work by Tracy Emin that was valued at nearly $1m. It was a tent, and inside were post it notes with the names of guys she had slept with. Is that art? To some people, yes, enough to give it a $1m value. I wish I were that "artistic".<<< Or that popular!
45	Kar2oonMan Wed 5/7/2008 2:19p	>>"Through his paintings trickles a current of double nostalgia - on the one hand, for the closed-off "heroic" possibilities of Modernism and, on the other, for the ancient Mediterranean world, experienced at a remove by living in modern Italy. Love (or its facsimile) among the ruins. "<< LOL, no, I didn't get that. My initial reaction was one of "oh, jeeze." Maybe it says all those things to some people, though. Maybe they really mean the stuff they're saying when they write about "a current of double nostalgia" etc. To me, it's like some foreign language that I don't understand at all. I know that my own tastes are probably pretty pedistrian by Art World standards. I like Norman Rockwell -- admitting that in some circles would get you laughed out of the room. Here's a True Life Adventure: In one of my painting courses years ago, we met for class every Tuesday and Thursday afternoon for 15 weeks. We worked on a single painting all this time. The subject matter was up to us. A friend of mine worked on this huge photorealistic painting of a manhole cover. It was intricate, incredibly detailed, you could see the pock marks in the metal, there were bits of gum and debris and scuffs and such. Another guy in the class came to class each week, and went about setting up his easel with a good amount of fanfare. He'd energetically mix a rainbow of colors on his palette, and place his huge white canvas up on the easel. Then he'd stare at it. For 10 minutes at a time. Then 20. Motionless. Then he'd go out for a smoke, return, and stare again. The instructor would come over to him, and they'd have fascinating discussions about art. Their favorite artists. Various gallery shows they'd seen. Then class would be over and he'd pack up all his stuff, not having done a thing. This went on for the next 13 weeks. Other paintings would progress, ever closer to completion. But his canvas remained stark white. On week 14, my friend's manhole cover was pretty much finished. It was a pretty amazing thing. Blank Canvas set up his stuff as usual. Mixed his paints. Stood and stared. Went for a smoke. Then, inspiration struck! He suddenly lunged and squeezed out a huge blob of red oil paint, began thinning it furously. This was it!!! Like a sword fighter in an Errol Flynn movie, he attacked his canvas, slashing huge arcs of brilliant red swashes this was and that. Zing! Zang! Zwoop!!! Unfortunately, he also flung generous amounts of red splatter across my friend's manhole cover painting. My friend was an amatuer boxer and I wasn't sure what would happen to poor Blank Canvas. Blank Canvas was oblivious however, slashing away creating ART. My friend silently packed up his stuff and headed home. Blank Canvas was still going at it by the time class ended. The following week, we had to place our finished work up in front of the room as the teacher and the class critiqued the finished products. Blank Canvas' work was a smash success. People loved the "energy" and "the passion" and probably saw "a trickle of double nostalgia" for all i know. One girl came up and tipped the painting over from verticle to horizontal, and everyone agreed that made it even better! And people loved the red splatters on the manhole cover. It was what they liked best. They liked how the carefree drips and splatters juxrtaposed against the stiff, photorealistic rendering below. So, I learned that art is in the eye of the beholder, and that there's a certain amount of BS in all of it, so you should just enjoy what you truly enjoy and that's art.
46	davewasbaloo Wed 5/7/2008 2:22p	>>>there's a certain amount of BS in all of it, so you should just enjoy what you truly enjoy and that's art.<<< Same thing can be said about wine too. what did you paint 2oony?
47	Kar2oonMan Wed 5/7/2008 2:25p	LOL, mine was dreadful. I had never painted with oils before, so I painted a bunch of styrofoam blocks and cones. I still have the painting somewhere. It's really, really NOT art! LOL
48	davewasbaloo Wed 5/7/2008 2:29p	Lol. Make up some bull about it's meaning (no less than 300 words) and then stick it on Ebay. Bet you could buy a day at DL for the family then!
49	Kar2oonMan Wed 5/7/2008 2:44p	Kar2oonMan's "Blocks and Cones" delves into the sterility and loneliness of the modern city. Painted in a childlike, primitive style, the work suggests inspiration by early cave paintings while also offering a nod to mid-century folk art. Only a gifted master could so accurately recreate the shaky, overworked brushstrokes of the untutored. Each amatuerish highlight sparkles with clumsy enthusiasm, a wry smirk at art itself. Opening bids start at: $35,000.
50	Lisann22 Wed 5/7/2008 3:03p	Or pose it as a question and use even less words... Kar2oonman; Blockhead or Conehead?

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