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Topic: My Kid Could Paint That

#	Author	Message
51	Kar2oonMan Wed 5/7/2008 3:07p	> : /
52	Lisann22 Wed 5/7/2008 3:08p	I love Modern Art. I love swirls and slashes, geometric designs, stuff that looks like carnival art where you take the ketchup and mustard bottles and put the paper on the pinwheel and mush it all together. I'd rather hang that up than Monet. Sheesh, I can drive to a meadow and get Monet. ;>
53	Jim in Merced CA Wed 5/7/2008 3:24p	Kar2oonMan! You of all people! Seems you should be a champion for the artist -- no matter who he is. <---[muttering to himself] art hater... :)
54	Lisann22 Wed 5/7/2008 3:34p	Cartoonist aren't artists. <rolling eyes>
55	Kar2oonMan Wed 5/7/2008 3:38p	>>You of all people! Seems you should be a champion for the artist -- no matter who he is.<< No, wait!!! I do, pretty much. Like I said, I only trust that first reaction as being "truth" for me. And just like judging music or food or how comfortable a sofa is, it's all pretty subjective stuff. I might like something splattery and abstract sometimes, but in all honesty I usually appreciate stuff a little more labor intensive. I always hear people say "I can't draw" or "I could never paint." I think that isn't true -- I think anyone can be taught at least the basics and take off from there if they have an interest. I don't believe people are born artists anymore than I think someone if born a doctor. But there is also a high degree of puffery in the world of fine art. Sometimes from the artist, usually from an art dealer or people at a gallery. I can't help but roll my eyes at some of the stuff they come up with. It's a little like a literature class in high school. You wind up having to deconstruct and over-analyse a book until whatever enjoyment and feelings you might have gotten from it have been beaten to death. So that's why I say trust that first gut reaction in art. It's fine if something makes you think, but if you have to read up on the artist to get where the artwork is coming from, that's too much for me. The work should speak for itself.
56	Lisann22 Wed 5/7/2008 3:42p	That's what I say every time I leave Animator's Academy. My Donald Duck should speak for himself even if he does look like a playtapus.
57	Jim in Merced CA Wed 5/7/2008 3:58p	Okay, here's my story about being in class. I studied theater in college. We were doing final scenes. I had chosen a scene [can't even recall now what it was from] with several other actors, lots of blocking, British accents, costumes and serious drama. Lots of drama. Wow, I was really the actor back then. During the scene, we paraded around the stage, shouted and emoted, and after about 5 minutes, we were finished. Another gal got up, and with her scene partner, sat down at a table, popped open Snack Pack pudding cups, and did the scene talking to each other while eating the pudding. It was a contemporary scene, so they just used their own clothes. They didn't get up from the table -- they just sat, and talked to each other, and ate Snack Pack pudding. It was absolutely riveting. I kid you not. We all just sat and listened in silence. It was a great scene. The best scene in the class, hands down. It really taught me a great lesson about acting. There are different kinds of scenes. Different styles of acting. Sometimes you don't need fancy costumes, special accents, or interesting blocking. Sometimes, all you need is a table, two chairs and two cans of Snack Pack pudding. Oh, yeah, and two good actors.
58	davewasbaloo Wed 5/7/2008 4:06p	That reminds me. If you guys ever get to see the Woman in Black - do it. Two actors, minimalist sets, the most scary and terrifying production I have ever seen. I took Sarah to see it the night after seeing Phantom of the Opera (it was quite a birthday weekend for her). When we went to the interval, she said she enjoyed it so far, but it wan't scary. Well I'll tell you what, after act 2, I had wounds on my arm thanks to my wife's fingernails. It took weeks to heal. Sometimes simple is the best.
59	Kar2oonMan Wed 5/7/2008 4:17p	I just did a Google image search on "abstract art", just to see which ones appealed to me personally using my patented "Gut Feeing(tm)" test. I liked this one: http://www.xoospace.com/myspac...5380.jpg I didn't care for this one: http://images.art.com/images/P...4731.jpg Which one is better? I dunno. But one is kinda neat to look at, the other not so much. Your mileage may vary. I liked this one: http://www.artbylt.com/Images/...n500.jpg But not this one: http://clarke-abstract-art.com...-red.jpg
60	Dabob2 Wed 5/7/2008 4:25p	Philistine!! You picked the wrong one each time. The ones you liked are middlebrow abstract "art" of the most pedestrian sort. The ones you didn't like exude the inner struggles of the artists and indeed of late 20th century western civilization itself. The allusions to pre-Roman Etruscan friezes are also there plain as day. How can you not SEE that?

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