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Topic: Bush sucks; worst president in history...

#	Author	Message
341	DAR Tue 6/24/2008 7:26a	Arguing which party is more fiscally responsible is like watching a porn then debating which girl was the bigger slut.
342	Walter Elias Tue 6/24/2008 7:37a	I enjoy the "Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln" attraction.
343	X-san Tue 6/24/2008 7:39a	***They all tried to cooperate with the Democrats.*** Yeah, right.
344	Kar2oonMan Tue 6/24/2008 7:50a	>>Arguing which party is more fiscally responsible is like watching a porn then debating which girl was the bigger slut.<< LOL! Exactly.
345	Kar2oonMan Tue 6/24/2008 8:02a	>>They all tried to cooperate with the Democrats.<< LOL! The powerful, powerful Democrats, who couldn't win elections? You really have to just accept the fact that the GOP was the party in power: house, senate and the White House. Therefore, they were in the position to actually do the things they wanted to (especially after 9/11, when the national mood was "we're all in this together, don't make waves"). The GOP blew it. They revealed that the old talking point about the GOP being so much better at fiscal matters was an old talking point, and nothing more. The legacy of the Bush Administration won't be a good one. I understand why more and more GOP supporters will start to throw President Bush under the bus. They are finally starting to accept that the low approval ratings are for real (losing the house and senate should have been a wake up call, but that didn't seem to work for everyone.) So, it'll be blame it all on Bush now, attempting to gloss over the fact that the GOP ran the show all those years and were not fiscally prudent. But the "they were just trying to get along with Democrats" thing, I hope, is meant as a joke. Oh, and about the Democrats wanting to spend less on defense: It was on Mr. Rumsfeld's watch that our soldiers went into battle without body armour, etc. Another GOP stalwart, who blew it.
346	Dabob2 Tue 6/24/2008 10:00a	<I showed the stats, in #277.> <Your stats did not show that the Democrats only "tinkered" with the budget, while President Reagan greatly increased them. They can't show that, because it's not true.> #277 disproved your claim that "the truth is that President Reagan raised both military spending and revenues, but not by as much as the Democrats raised domestic." That was simply a falsehood, and I showed it to be so. Dabob 1, DouglasDubh 0. Meanwhile, I asked you for evidence ages ago that Reagan ever submitted a budget that the Democrats changed more than a few percentage points in overall spending. You couldn't. So the point remains - the Congresses tinkered and restored a few cuts, re-shuffled a couple of others, but essentially accepted the Reagan budgets as offered, which included larger deficits than any under Carter or Ford or Nixon... If you can show otherwise, please do. Otherwise we're at a stalemate except for your blatant falsehood above.
347	X-san Tue 6/24/2008 10:04a	***But the "they were just trying to get along with Democrats" thing, I hope, is meant as a joke.*** It wasn't though. That's what turns his whole shtick into a parody of his former self. He has no ability to actually communicate, only to parrot.
348	DouglasDubh Tue 6/24/2008 6:49p	<#277 disproved your claim that "the truth is that President Reagan raised both military spending and revenues, but not by as much as the Democrats raised domestic."> So you admit it didn't show what you claimed earlier? It also didn't disprove my claim. Under President Reagan, military spending did go up about 140 billion. Revenue, meanwhile, went up almost 500 billion. So military spending can't be blamed. <Meanwhile, I asked you for evidence ages ago that Reagan ever submitted a budget that the Democrats changed more than a few percentage points in overall spending. You couldn't. So the point remains - the Congresses tinkered and restored a few cuts, re-shuffled a couple of others, but essentially accepted the Reagan budgets as offered, which included larger deficits than any under Carter or Ford or Nixon... If you can show otherwise, please do.> No, that point doesn't remain. You don't get to define what constitutes "tinkering". Increasing a budget by a few percentage points is much more than "tinkering". The bottom line is Democrats always adjust spending upward - they are not the party of fiscal discipline.
349	DouglasDubh Tue 6/24/2008 6:50p	<That's what turns his whole shtick into a parody of his former self. He has no ability to actually communicate, only to parrot.> I'm sure it seems that way to clueless idiots.
350	X-san Tue 6/24/2008 9:45p	I would define a clueless idiot as one who never admits he's in error. Got a mirror, Douglas?

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