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| ADMIN
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| pecos bill
Sun 5/4/2008 11:02a | I wont pretent to know what was in this poor guys head. I wont say I can understand his mindset. But I will reserve the right to be critical of anyone who directly or indirectly traumatizes innocent bystanders, even if that is the heartbreaking act of taking one's own life. |
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| ADMIN
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| WyomingWoody
Sun 5/4/2008 11:16a | " My point with you is that you jumped in"
And gave my opinion same as you. I don't think it is your place to tell me or any other member when a nd which topics they are allowed to post about. |
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| WyomingWoody
Sun 5/4/2008 11:24a | Back to the topic-my opinion is that I am not going to defend anyone's actions when they put others at physical or mental harm which is what this jumper did.
I have the same no tolerance stand for drunk drivers-I don[t' care how sad/depressed/messed up etc a person is-they don't have the right to harm others. |
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| dsnykid
Sun 5/4/2008 11:45a | Comparing a suicidal man to a person who drives drunk... hmmm...while driving drunk can often be considered suicidal behavior, I personally feel that is where the comparison ends.. I've been suicidal, I've talked at length on these boards about both myself and my brother's mental illness... I can say with all honesty that I never thought about driving drunk as a way to kill myself because I only wanted to kill myself, not others. I also remember very clearly thinking that my death would be the best thing for my family and that, although the grief would be a lot for them, they would be better off not having me to worry about. I truly felt that I was doing something helpful for my family. That is how many suicidal people feel at the time they are planning and attempting suicide. It was a common theme when I was in counseling afterwards as well, so I don't think I am in the minority. |
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| danyoung
Sun 5/4/2008 2:33p | >I find it odd that you would brag about not feeling any emotion for a person who could be in pain.<
I didn't brag about anything. I simply stated that my heart does not go out to this person. I know nothing of this person. The guy might not have any family to mourn him, might have an inoperable tumor, might be checking out with the only shred of dignity left to him. Every suicide doesn't have to be a mental illness or an overwhelming despondence. It could very well have been the last decision of a rational mind in an irrational situation. His method and his location were unfortunate, but other than that I know nothing about him or his history. So I repeat that assumptions are being made with no basis in fact. It's a sad thing that a person chose to end his life like this, and in this location. But it might not be as tragic and horrific as some have been intimating.
At the risk of offending those who have fought depression and won the battle (and more power to you - really!), some times deciding your own time and place to check out is not always a bad thing.
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| pecos bill
Sun 5/4/2008 2:39p | I agree Dan. |
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| mele
Sun 5/4/2008 2:45p | Well, I can agree with your last statement, dan. I just think that at the base of every suicide, there is something they're trying to escape and whatever that is is sad. I guess I have to backtrack a little, then. If someone calmly plans and chooses to commit suicide in a place where children would almost definitely see them...yes, that is selfish. Even then, I don't think it's the act of suicide that is necessarily selfish, just where they chose to do it. |
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| dsnykid
Sun 5/4/2008 4:24p | Dan, I agree, not everyone kills themselves because of a mental illness... But it is the majority, and that is where many of us are speaking from. And I do understand where you are coming from, I think my issue was more with comparing a suicidal person to a drunk driver who puts others lives at risk as well. |
