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Topic: Latest: Through Jim Hill Imagineer responds to fan criticisms

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demderedoseguys
Mon 5/5/2008 10:36a
>Why? The AP holders are a small fraction of the target audience, and they're not even close to the target audience profile. If AP holders made up more of the attendance numbers, they would have a larger voice. But if more than 80% of the people in the parks at any given time are once/year or once/lifetime visitors, then that's who they need to make the happiest. Regular visitors look at the attractions and their visits to WDW differently. Next time you go, try to remember your first visit - that's how 4 out 5 people around you are experiencing WDW at that moment.
It just makes good business sense to appeal to the masses, and on the scale that Disney does things in this day and age, good business sense is the way they need to operate. And even while they're appealing to the masses, the extra 'Disney touch' helps to keep WDW as a target vacation destination<

Why? Because the APers know the most of what the "Disney touch" is and should be all about. Anything less makes it less Disney and more like just any other amusement park. If each generation strips away more and more of the "Disney touch", the brand will eventually cease to exist. Does it make good business sense to end up with just another amusement park?

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HMButler79
Mon 5/5/2008 10:42a
""Wouldn't it be nice if there was a little area dad can wait in with the rugrat while everyone else is ascending the stairway to heaven?""

Cause TSI is not available. pleeeeeeaseeee.....
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Tiggirl
Mon 5/5/2008 10:45a
<<you are assuming that said imagineer exists. I'd wager he is a figment of an overactive imagination that wants to spark some controversy his way>>

I always suspected...

~Beth
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wahooskipper
Mon 5/5/2008 10:46a
How are Disney's attendance numbers these days? Would anyone mistake the Magic Kingdom for a Six Flags park?

Are they REALLY in jeopardy of being considered "just another amusement park" because they are adding some characters in IASW or they created a video game attraction in the likeness of Toy Story? My guess? Just as Space Ranger Spin has done the new Toy Story ride will be a hit and receive rave reviews. It will have a high re-rideability factor and the vast majority of people will love it...which is good for business.

And, guess what? There will be complaints on Disney fan websites. Funnier still: within the Disney "nerds" themselves some will enjoy the attraction and others will not.
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wahooskipper
Mon 5/5/2008 10:50a
Butler...TSI is no picnic with a 2-3 year old. And, for the purposes of my example how long do you think it would take me to get over to the rafts, cross the river, run around a bit and retreat back to the Philharmagic theatre or the Treehouse?

I don't think you need a Pooh Playground (or version thereof) at every attraction exit but the idea of a small area like that in a strategic place in each line sounds GREAT to someone who has had to pass the time with a nonriding little one.
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wahooskipper
Mon 5/5/2008 10:51a
...in a a strategic place in each LAND...not line....
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Mr X
Mon 5/5/2008 10:53a
Yuck.

Disneyland managed without something so banal for 50 years with no complaints, and now you want that in every land.

Yuck. Just Yuck.

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Mr X
Mon 5/5/2008 10:55a
Having said that, there ARE ways to accomplish what you are looking for Wahoo and still keep it magical and not cheapo.

Ariel's playground is a wonderland, AMAZING and great not ONLY for little kids but everyone else too.

Pooh's playground just sucks. El cheapo.
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wahooskipper
Mon 5/5/2008 10:56a
You know...Disneyland didn't have baby comfort stations for 50 years either but those ADD to the guest experience...at least from a parent perspective.
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wahooskipper
Mon 5/5/2008 10:58a
I know a little something about building playgrounds and I would be willing to bet that Pooh's playground cost in excess of $1 million. Certainly not "el cheapo" for what its intent is.

If Disney were to only build attractions for EVERYONE then there would be no Mountains at all in Florida and their waterparks would consist of a wading pool and a cabana.
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