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Topic: LP Column: 5/5/08 Greg Maletic: Disney's Biggest Theme Park Mistakes

#	Author	Message
91	barboy Wed 5/7/2008 5:24p	"The only place you'll see new attractions like this, right now, are in Tokyo Disneyland, where Pooh's Hunny Hunt and the 2009-opening Monster's Inc. ride are." But Pooh isn't all that long--- not like Pirates, Mansion, World of Motion, Horizons, Spaceship Earth. And furthermore probably 35% of the ride is moving about "randomly" in that one room shared by other pots. It doesn't have too many show scenes compared to those others mentioned. Pooh just isn't as epic as most might think. As for Monsters I have no idea.
92	X-san Wed 5/7/2008 7:09p	***Pooh just isn't as epic as most might think.*** It might not be long, but I'd say it sure is epic. I rode it again just last week, it never ceases to amaze me. I agree though, it's not long enough and not on a par with Pirates or Mansion as far as that's concerned.
93	phoebus Thu 5/8/2008 3:50a	"But Pooh isn't all that long--- not like Pirates, Mansion, World of Motion, Horizons, Spaceship Earth. And furthermore probably 35% of the ride is moving about "randomly" in that one room shared by other pots. It doesn't have too many show scenes compared to those others mentioned. Pooh just isn't as epic as most might think;" I totally agree with you. Pooh, though great, seems to me a little bit overrated. Saying that one of the biggest mistake made by Disney is to not build more rides like POTC or HM is false. 1) They built other huge AA rides: most of the Epcot rides in 1982, the Great Movie Ride in Disney-MGM Studios, Splash Mountain at MK... And now Little Mermaid at DCA. And that's not all. Rides like Indiana Jones Adventure or Dinosaur, or even BTM, are for me what you except from Disney: big immersive rides, with amazing props, AA, details... So, some of those rides are slow, some other are faster (we are not anymore in the sixties guys!). 2) A good park is built on diversity. You need long rides like POTC and thrill rides like SM, and shows, and parades, and so on... If POTC is still so popular, it is also because it is unique. There is no other POTC in the park. If they had built for instance Western River expedition, maybe that POTC would not be so popular today... Again, you need diversity 3) For me, the biggest mistake Disney made was to not built those huge AA rides at HKDL. here is the mistake !
94	barboy Thu 5/8/2008 8:33a	"It might not be long, but I'd say it sure is epic." Perhaps, but I really do think that Tokyo's Pooh is way, way overrated. It is a very fine attraction, far better than his peers but nowhere near the hype it gets. My theory is that since Dl Anaheim, Hong Kong and Orlando have versions closer to the old 50's or original style dark rides that people talk about Tokyo's as if it is the ultimate ride overseas--- it's not.
95	sudiznee Mon 5/12/2008 10:44p	I couldn't agree with you more. Disney does make several blunders and my husband and I love to go. I don't understand why the RV crowd is treated like low class citizens when most of them drive in in very expensive motorhomes. The biggest blunder Disney has made is not catering to this crowd. They closed River Country which was one of the signature things at Ft. Wilderness, No exercise room, no real sized arcade for the kids. These people have money to burn, that is why they take their house with them! We drive our RV almost everytime and everytime we drive up to check Disney treats us like idiots when they should be saying, "Welcome back"!
96	Doobie Tue 5/13/2008 3:57a	Maybe an RV park / DVC would make you happier while simultaneously making Greg shake his head even more :) Doobie.
97	2001DLFan Wed 5/14/2008 9:52p	<<Doobie: The one I most disagree with is Same Price for all Parks. I think all parks give a full-day's entertainment and therefore should be the same price. All So Cal parks are pretty much the same pric and to have priced DCA much lower than Knott's and Universal would have been silly, IMHO. But that was debated like crazy way back in 2001.>> Sorry, I have to disagree with you here Doobie. Every car can get you from point A to point B, but they shouldn't all cost the same. Every meal could be filling, but they shouldn't cost the same. Every amusement park, carnival and theme park can provide a "full day's entertainment". The difference of all those experiences is the quality. If DCA doesn't start living up to the quality that Disney has established for itself, then it is very likely that could DESERVE a ticket price less than Knott's and Universal if those parks end up being a better entertainment value.
98	Doobie Thu 5/15/2008 5:43a	But right now aren't Universal, Knotts, even Sea World essentially the same price as Disney? So for DCA to have a lower price would mean having a lower price than all of them as well. Knott's and Universal are certainly no Disneyland, but they cost just as much. That's just the way thing park pricing works and I don't think it would've been a good idea for DCA to change that and price themselves less than non-Disney parks. Maybe they should've raised Disneyland's price when DCA opened and seen how the competition reacted to that. That would've been fun. Doobie.
99	X-san Thu 5/15/2008 5:57a	I agree on the pricing. The image of Disney is "a magical day of enjoyment" whether it be at Disneyland, or Epcot, or Animal Kingdom, or DCA whathave you. To price one park less than any other would be to admit that they have "superior" and "inferior" parks. Wouldn't work.
100	KevGuy Thu 5/15/2008 8:15a	Dude, get a grip DVC is awesome!!!

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