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Topic: LP Column: 5/5/08 Greg Maletic: Disney's Biggest Theme Park Mistakes

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Mr X
Tue 5/6/2008 6:57a
I have to disagree with a lot of your criticism about Epcot. I love the place. And while I see your point about having a bit of a confused identity, its my favorite park and we always spend the most time there. I love the fact that there are things to learn, places to visit that I may never have a chance to actually go to, people from those places to talk to and a vision of a utopian sort of future. Not to say that there aren't some problems but I feel like Epcot still embodies Walt's vision for a family park better than any other Disney Park I've visited.

~Beth



Will you marry me?

:)
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Tiggirl
Tue 5/6/2008 7:17a
LOL! X, you flatter me. ;o)

~Beth
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Mr X
Tue 5/6/2008 7:31a
:)

Gotta love a chick who shares the same vibe right?

We're always BFF's though. Even if you never wanna marry me. :)
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Mr X
Tue 5/6/2008 7:32a
By the way, IPB, I gotta tell you I was at Disney the other day and...well...I bought a churro (in YOUR memory only).

It was okay. Kinda surgery though. The popcorn line was too long. :)
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ExplosionZ
Tue 5/6/2008 7:53a
Since no one seems to be standing up for the DVC, I will. Greg, your point about the hyper marketing is well taken but I also have to say that if it were not for that, I may not be a member today. It took me about 20 booths before I finally gave in and asked about the "best kept secret". Now I do not know how I would live without it.

Regarding your criticism about the paying up front. I do not believe that Disney would ever allow their properties to deteriorate, they are Disney. Even if you pay the bulk of your costs up front, there are still annual dues that facilitate the properties upkeep.

As far as allowing people to think they "own" a piece of Disney, it is genius! When people ask me about my Disney trip, I can proudly say that I own my condo (OK a share of it). This pride also encourages me to visit more frequently that I might otherwise. Yes, we could use our points to go other places but there is a draw about going "home" to our DVC that makes us want to be there even more.

DVC is a great system and is not only bringing great joy to my family but is saving us lots of money over the years.
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Tiggirl
Tue 5/6/2008 7:56a
BFF's dude, totally! ;o) LOL!

And I'm glad to hear about the Churro. That is one thing that Disney got right for sure. ;o) But I never get them anymore except for at the CM Holidy Party when they're on sale. Otherwise they are too expensive. That it one thing Disney did wrong. (See, its all on topic!) I'm telling you though, if I ever make it to Japan I'm trying some of those flavored popcorn options. They sound like they might hide the "cardboard" flavor pretty well. ;o)

~Beth
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fkurucz
Tue 5/6/2008 7:58a
I don't agree that DVC "hopes" that those who pre-purchased their rooms won't show up. While its true that they already have the room money, if guests don't show up they won't spend money at the Parks, DtD, water parks, etc. If anything, I think DVC guarantees that these people will show up, even whe the economy is down.
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The Goddess Mara
Tue 5/6/2008 8:14a
I'm a DVC member. We go to Disney twice a year, east coast or west, and haven't paid for a hotel room in years. I, too, dislike the dumb DVC kiosks everywhere. But the Disney Vacation Club itself is a great thing if you go often.

As far as Epcot, it has nothing to do with Walt's vision, however it's the best second gate in the world (better than DisneySea only because there is a lot more to do). Criticizing it when you've never been there is the height of absurdity.
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Doobie
Tue 5/6/2008 8:29a
<<<
As far as Epcot, it has nothing to do with Walt's vision, however it's the best second gate in the world (better than DisneySea only because there is a lot more to do). Criticizing it when you've never been there is the height of absurdity.
>>>

If you're referring to the author, he's been there. Is there something in the article to indicate he has not?

Doobie.
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Kar2oonMan
Tue 5/6/2008 8:40a
>>I have to disagree with a lot of your criticism about Epcot. I love the place. And while I see your point about having a bit of a confused identity, its my favorite park and we always spend the most time there. I love the fact that there are things to learn, places to visit that I may never have a chance to actually go to, people from those places to talk to and a vision of a utopian sort of future. Not to say that there aren't some problems but I feel like Epcot still embodies Walt's vision for a family park better than any other Disney Park I've visited.<<

I completely agree. In fact, having just visited it for the first time last month, I think it may indeed be my favorite Disney park, even ahead of Disneyland.
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