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Topic: LP Column: 5/5/08 Greg Maletic: Disney's Biggest Theme Park Mistakes

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ryanbalas
Wed 5/7/2008 7:29a
What I like about the character based rides (the later ones) are the opportunity to participate - Buzz and Toy Story Mania. They give us a chance to be a kid. Once the competition kicks in - you finally let go.

I sense a bit of control too. Do they not search out sponsors so they can have the toys manufactured anywhere in the world at the lowest price?

I would love to see an expansion of ToonTown. Will it ever happen now that almost all resources are spread across the globe?

I would love the budgets for the parks have a stipulation that a portion of money raised there - stays there instead of going to the big bank account and doled out by a bunch of suits (with pretty first name name tags).
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dirkcoil
Wed 5/7/2008 7:57a
I am a huge Disney fan but I'm not blinded by their mistakes or greed or errors. I live near Walt Disney World and love going but I must admit, I hate the way they've used the land and some of the things they built. Seems they keep selling land or giving it away. So many things to bring up but I will limit it to just a few.

The Disney Speedway. What was the thought and need of that? Had a few seasons of races and now it's just a driving school. Nice thought process there.

I agree with what some of you guys are saying too about the rides. Horizons was one of the best, as was World of Motion and the original Journey into Imagination. Those were "classic" rides and loved by so many. I mean, I am a very nostalgic person and really miss the original Tomorrowland, with those towering white plylons and also the nice, clean cut Future World but I am open to change, to a degree. Why just throw cheap, in your face crap in place of something that told a story? That bewilders me big time.

And one of my biggest gripes now is the adding of the 4 seasons resort over Eagle Pines and Osprey Ridge golf courses. Is it really needed? From what I've heard, it's just another sellout by Disney to keep money coming into their pockets.

I loved the Walt Disney World Village and Fort Wilderness and The Contemporary and all the others but I do not need to know that it's Disney's.

I look at images on Google Maps at the property and just wonder what they were thinking? Does anyone know if Celebration's acreage counts towards the original land mass of over 27,000 acres? I've also heard it grew to over 30,000 but is now down to 25,000. Does anyone know the real size of it now?

Thanks to all who have the passion.
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gmaletic
Wed 5/7/2008 8:12a
To everyone that has posted...thanks! Keep 'em coming. I'm working on a collective response that I'll publish next week.

Thanks again,

Greg

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Kar2oonMan
Wed 5/7/2008 8:48a
From way back at post 65:

>>Gotta vehemently disagree with you there 2oony. DAK is all about the subtext of conservation - everything in that park is telling the story of why we need to actively conserve our planet. The Safaris' subtext of the impact of poachers is wholly appropriate. It engages with the guest and remind them how fragile the balance is.<<

I do understand what the intent is -- it's edu-tainment. I just think that it gets in the way of truly appreciating the animals and learning more about them. It's yet another "and then something goes horribly wrong" story element that just doesn't work, in my opinion.

I am certain they could find a way to show how fragile the balance is without it being so corny.
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Hans Reinhardt
Wed 5/7/2008 9:55a
"plus ETA terrorist attacks were rife too."

There have been few, if any ETA terrorist attacks in Cataluna since it is a region that has its own separatist movement. The vast majority of those attacks happen in Madrid and the Basque Country.

It's interesting that you cite terrorist attacks as being problematic for the region when both Paris and London have had several major terrorist attacks during the past several decades. Barcelona hosted the very successful Olympic Games in 1992, and the region has PortAventura - the largest theme park in Europe.
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Dabob2
Wed 5/7/2008 9:57a
<I am certain they could find a way to show how fragile the balance is without it being so corny.>

Exactly. The poacher "story" didn't work for me either. The first time it was just slightly annoying. Subsequent trips it just got increasingly annoying.

The message is great, of course. But if it causes one to roll one's eyes, then it's actually counterproductive.
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rocko804
Wed 5/7/2008 9:58a
Just to defend DAK a little: True, the icon of the park is entirely fake, but the animals and most of the plants and such were researched and brought to Florida specifically to have it as natural and authentic as possible. There was also an extreme amount of research that went into the look and construction of the buildings and such. Just my cent-and-a-half.

I'd also like to add that the Great Movie Ride is still amazing to me. The most lacking part is if you unfortunately get a lackluster guide. The cast member makes or breaks that ride.
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davewasbaloo
Wed 5/7/2008 9:59a
Indeed, but seeing first hand how much is being invested for security for the Olympic Games (huge $billions) in London is different than having a major international theme park.

And PA is not as big as DLRP, though the old Universal plans would have made it so. Also, although PA has built hotels and a water park, there have only been 3 new attractions in the last 10 years - why is that?
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Hans Reinhardt
Wed 5/7/2008 10:46a
^^'Cause it doesn't have the draw that Disney does. Had Disney been there I believe it would have been a different story.
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davewasbaloo
Wed 5/7/2008 11:57a
Busch and Universal aren't exactly mom and pops. we will never know how it would have fared there, but my gut tells me, not as well.

I have had colleagues that have gone only because it is a good stopover on there way to the South of France - kind of like WDW was perceived in the 60's(then they either loved or hated the place). I think there is a reasonable amount of guests that were in this boat for the 1st 10 years.
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