| # | Author | Message |
151
| gottaluvdavillains
Thu 5/22/2008 10:33a | I have a question - I drove down to Dl in my Diesel Monster - It only cost me about $40 more than normal so I was happy -
The way there and back Diesel was $4.69
Get back notice Diesel is still $4.69 when I take DD to school monday AM. Monday afternoon $4.75
Tuesday am $4.75 Tuesday pm $4.80 Wed am $4.80 Wed pm $4.85...
So with in 2 days Diesel went up $.16 a gallon - Regular gas went up in this same time $.04....
So why does Diesel go up so much more at a time than regular gas? |
152
| davewasbaloo
Thu 5/22/2008 11:09a | Well, they are expecting fuel to go up to $12 a gallon by the end of the month here. And the local train station put parking up 40 cents more a day (they raised parking by 80 cents in Jan). Grrrrr.
Travel in the states is certainly cheaper. There is talk about a road blockade in London and Paris to protest next week. |
153
| fkurucz
Thu 5/22/2008 1:59p | ^^In your case the Euro gov't could provide some real, non trivial relief by reducing fuel taxes. |
154
| WilliamK99
Thu 5/22/2008 2:12p | They won't because they have such a good public transportation system. I can take a train anywhere in Bavaria for 19 dollars, which is very nice.
The most driving my family and I do usually is from our house to either the airport or train station. That is why Europeans don't mind such high gas prices, they don't drive as much as Americans do. |
155
| davewasbaloo
Thu 5/22/2008 2:34p | fcurucz, indeed the taxation on fuel is high (to encourage environmentally good behaviours). We are paying about $3.30 in tax per gallon. |
156
| Mrs ElderP
Thu 5/22/2008 2:36p | Re: post 150
Fundamently, eventually oil **may** get up to $1,000 a barrel, and gas **may** be $10 a gallon. The question is, by then, will you care? Right now there is *nothing* as compartivly cheap as $30 a barrel oil. There are a few energy sources, depending on your location that are cheaper than $130 a barrel oil. There are lots more energy sources that are cheaper than $200 a barrel oil and so on.
Your great great great grandma cared about the price of whale oil, rendered from whale fat, because it was the the best oil for her lamps and provided much of the light in her dark house. On the other hand, as whale oil got more and more expensive (as whales got scarcer and scarcer) chemists started fooling around with the sticky stuff bubbeling up through the ground in Pennsylvania, trying to see how to make it burn cleanly and cheaply. They figured it out and within not such a short amount of time, there was a big oil boom in Pennsylvania (followed by other booms in Texas, etc.) and a declime in whaling in New Bedford. Of course the whales haven't totally recovered, but they're not totally gone either.
Really, you may never fill up your car with such a small percentage of your income as you did in 2001, but you will always have a way to move from place to place. The invisible hand will take care of that. |
157
| davewasbaloo
Thu 5/22/2008 2:36p | Don't get me wrong, I am angry about the price we pay, but it is not the end of the world compared to other things. But 2.5 hours to go 60 miles today between traffic to the station, getting parked, on a train that was delayed and then my mile walk to work was annoying to say the least. However, due to traffic, the car journey would have taken as long and cost far more. |
158
| RoadTrip
Thu 5/22/2008 2:52p | <<And is any of it in a place that we can get to easily, cheaply, and without destroying the natural environment?>>
I for one would certainly hate to be responsible for the extinction of the Artic Tundra Snail... or whatever in the world it is that they worry about. Its freaking wilderness... that means no one lives there. That means we can drill as much as we want and no human beings are harmed. And to me, human beings are a lot more important than the freaking Artic Tundra Snail.
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159
| davewasbaloo
Thu 5/22/2008 2:58p | Now RT, go and watch the Lion King, after all we are all joined in the circle of life. |
160
| gottaluvdavillains
Thu 5/22/2008 3:48p | Great now it's $4.89 - so $.20 in 96 hours.... Regular gas in same time up $.06 |
