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| ecdc
Wed 5/7/2008 10:12a | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21...24499690
The link is to video of Russert being interviewed and it shows a clip of his comments last night. They really were remarkable; he compared Hillary Clinton to a great sports figure that has to ponder retirement and how difficult it is.
After last night, she can no longer claim to have the lead in the popular vote (which she could only do before by counting Florida and Michigan). Obama now leads in popular vote, pledged delegates, and states won. After last night, it's probably only a matter of time before he leads in super delegates as well.
Of course, Tim Russert isn't the decider here. Hillary Clinton looks like she's going forward, but now she has absolutely nothing in her pocket to convince the super delegates that she's deserving of their support for the nomination. |
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| DisneyFreak96
Wed 5/7/2008 10:16a | I just finished watching that myself. I agree with him, myself. However, I don't think she is going to leave the race until the convention is over. I think she will hold out for the party to back her, even if it hurts the party in the long run. |
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| DlandDug
Wed 5/7/2008 12:15p | I saw it last night live. What Russert also pointed out was that Clinton had canceled her various media appearances for Wednesday. That lead him to believe that even she knew there was no way to put a good spin on the election results.
It is clear that she will keep in the race, though. I am inclined to believe she is now running for 2012. She will still go back to the Senate, but for now she has a much, much larger arena in which to garner attention.
There is also a theory that she is staying on in order to further weaken Obama. That would lead to a McCain victory this year, and leave the field wide open for Hillary in 2012. If there is any truth to this will be seen in how much support she actually gives nominee Obama. |
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| SingleParkPassholder
Wed 5/7/2008 12:25p | I think she's finally done. She might not.
If she's truly out to weaken Obama, a cheap and disloyal ploy, then Obama should back in her a corner and offer her the V.P. slot. If she accepts, so much for 2012. If she doesn't, maybe she gets exposed somewhat. |
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| DisneyFreak96
Wed 5/7/2008 1:21p | According to the AP, she is going to stay in.
<<WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton says she will remain in the presidential race "until there's a nominee." The former first lady declined to say whether that meant through the roll call of the states at the Democratic National Convention this summer.>>
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24500688/
So yeah, I think she is willing to continue to weaken Obama.
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| gadzuux
Wed 5/7/2008 1:44p | Which in turn means that she's willing to place her own interests above that of the party and the nation. And to what end? She's not going to get the nomination. But she is going to continue to hobble the democratic candidate.
Is this spite? Is that a presidential trait? What about these people (largely women) who say that they'll vote for mccain over obama. Why? Both obama and clinton are nearly aligned on most major issues, and mccain is way over on the other side of the spectrum. So why would these people say that they'll vote for "the other guy" if hillary doesn't get the nomination?
McCain would continue with the iraq war, continue with deficit spending, snf appoint judges that would imperil a woman's right to choose. But no matter - the first viable woman candidate didn't get the nomination, so they'll shun her opponent - no matter what his policies are.
Or - they won't. They'll come to their senses and vote their own best interests.
Either way, hillary's out and given her actions over the past several months, we as a nation are better off for it. |
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| DAR
Wed 5/7/2008 1:49p | Are Democratic voters going to want to go through this again in either 2012 or if they don't win in November 2016? I have to imagine people are getting fatigued at this point. |
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| oc_dean
Wed 5/7/2008 2:04p | FYI ....
this is simple.
She knows she has to bow out.
BUT LOOK ....
She has a debt, that needs to be paid off.
She can't admit it .....
but before she can officially bow out ....She has to continue with her fundraisers to pay off those debts. Or pay as much as she can toward them.
Hello President Obama :D |
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| gadzuux
Wed 5/7/2008 2:23p | I wonder if obama wouldn't be willing to assume her debt just to get her out of the way. He's rolling in dough.
It'd be money well spent. |
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| Kar2oonMan
Wed 5/7/2008 4:33p | The sensible thing, of course, would be for her to make a graceful exit and get to work helping the Democrat party win in November. Even if they don't win, her showing that she can be a "good soldier" would go a long way towards setting her up nicely for a future run.
But that doesn't seem to be the Clintons' style. Sensible is a foreign concept to them, and they'd much rather stay in the spotlight as long as possible at all costs. And if she keeps at this pointless campaign all the way to the convention, and the Democrats wind up losing, the Clintons will get full blame. |
