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Topic: 5/9/08 Toy Story Midway Mania! Preview (Rebekah's Blog)

#	Author	Message
21	ArchtMig Sun 5/11/2008 9:40p	Gosh, I hope the one at DCA is just as good. Or better. This was supposed to be a DCA-exclusive attraction and they shoehorned it into DHS and got their's opened first and now it's like it's a WDW ride and DCA is getting a copy. I HATE it that folks at WDW are riding it already and we have to wait until June. And even though the new DCA buildings are better themed, I hope the inside theming of the queue is just as detailed or I'll be very angry. Can't wait to try this attraction out. Can't get to WDW anytime soon. Guess I'll have to wait for June for DCA's version. ***grumble*** Thanks for your review, Rebekah.
22	WilliamK99 Sun 5/11/2008 11:26p	This was supposed to be a DCA-exclusive attraction and they shoehorned it into DHS and got their's opened first and now it's like it's a WDW ride and DCA is getting a copy.<< In the grand scheme of things, why would this matter?
23	skinnerbox Mon 5/12/2008 10:02a	"I wonder how bad it is that they warn you about motion sickness" Mostly headaches and nausea if you're prone to it.
24	Roger55 Mon 5/12/2008 2:07p	I had the pleasure to speak with the WDI Project Manager for TSMM at DHS. He told me the loading area will be different between DHS and DCA. He said they had more space to work with at DHS. Although DCA is putting in an entirely new building, they had to work around the footprint of Screamin' so some of the elements of the DHS loading area were not used for the DCA version. One thing that I didn't care for at DHS TSMM was the need to climb stairs up and then back down to the load area. I'm sure there were logistical reasons for having to do that. It is like Indiana Jones at DL. Guests needing assistance or unable to climb the stairs are taken in through the unload side of the loading area. And I don't know if this was mentioned in other places, but the term "midway" is indeed used at the DHS version. It is even on the main sinage of the attraction.
25	Witches of Morva Mon 5/12/2008 4:03p	ORDDU: You are correct about the alternate loading area for guests who can't climb stairs, Roger55, duckling. Due to our sister--Orwen's--size, she found it most difficult to climb the stairs so Orgoch and I were obliged to do the ramps with her. But it meant all 3 of us got to ride the attraction much sooner, so we're not complaining.
26	ArchtMig Tue 5/13/2008 12:21p	>>>Although DCA is putting in an entirely new building, they had to work around the footprint of Screamin' so some of the elements of the DHS loading area were not used for the DCA version.<<< So what did they add to the DCA version to "plus" it and make it unique or in some ways better than the DHS version? Oh... nothing? They just omitted some of the elements that are in the DHS version? This is what I'm talking about. Anaheim almost always gets the shorter end of the stick. It drives me up the wall. Outside of our newer and better version of Buzz Lightyear (and maybe the subs if you really want to stretttttttch an argument), I can't think of a single thing that was duplicated for Anaheim that's superior to the WDW originals. If not in the heart of the attraction itself, then in the queue setup, Anaheim's versions are always lacking something. >>>In the grand scheme of things, why would this matter?<<< Because it does. I can't wait for Cars Land because FINALLY, I think we are going to get something spectacular that isn't likely going to be built elsewhere at the same time and opened a friggen month before ours is. DCA NEEDS unique, one of a kind, signature iconic attractions. Not "oh, that's just the same ride they have at WDW" type attractions.
27	davewasbaloo Tue 5/13/2008 12:33p	>>>Outside of our newer and better version of Buzz Lightyear (and maybe the subs if you really want to stretttttttch an argument), I can't think of a single thing that was duplicated for Anaheim that's superior to the WDW originals.<<< I can, but you probably will not agree: Space Mountain - I have always felt DL's is superior to MK's. Toontown Buzz and Subs (as stated) Animation ToT (I really do prefer DCA's in almost every way). Grizzly is better than Kali Then almost everything that went in to WDW after DL is a lesser version at WDW.
28	bayrr326 Tue 5/13/2008 6:02p	"ToT (I really do prefer DCA's in almost every way)." I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on that one. DCA's is totally lacking. It is simply not as creepy as the one at DHS. From the moment you walk thru the gates and into the gardens it feels like you are stepping into another world. Also, the aging they did at DCA was just not good. The one at DHS looks way more like a rundown abandoned hotel. And don't get me started on the loading at DCA that totally takes you out of the experience where as at DHS when you load it doesn't take you out of the theming. Sorry but DCA's is a half ** experience compared to DHS's.
29	ArchtMig Tue 5/13/2008 11:25p	regarding your post #27, davewasbaloo, I should have clarified my statement even more but my complaint is about everything that has gone into Anaheim since the Pressler era began, which would more or less coincide with the Indy ride opening in 1994. So Toontown and Space Mountain don't count since they preceded the dark years. Re: the rest of your list - Animation isn't that big of a deal. The projections in the "courtyard" are nice, if you can even call an unadorned room with no ceiling and hardly any seating other than the bare floor a "courtyard". Grizzly is not better than Kali, just different, and it doesn't have any real backstory, no special effects, an unrealistic bear head at the top of the mountain that most people look at and wonder why there is a big dog up there, and a big hotel looming up over and around it which totally wrecks the sense of being out in the wilderness. And I totally disagree with you regarding the DCA TOT. bayrr326 said it perfectly and succinctly in post #28, and in my opinion, nothing more needs to be said. But you are welcome to your opinion, so I'll be happy to trade the DCA version to you for the original WDW one.
30	ArchtMig Tue 5/13/2008 11:36p	>>>Also, the aging they did at DCA was just not good. The one at DHS looks way more like a rundown abandoned hotel.<<< You know, that's spot on. The exterior damage looks more like recent earthquake cracks than 70 year old deteriorated crumblings, and the purple lightning damage looks like the Jolly Green Giant spilled a lot of that old mimeograph ink that they used to make fresh, wet ditto copies of tests in school. Mmmm, those fresh dittos smelled gooood, but I digress. Inside, the lighting is way too bright, and the cobwebs on the objects in the lobby look like Elvira haphazardly tossed around that cheap plastic cobweb stuff during a drunken Halloween all night binge. Bottom line is, the art direction at the DCA TOT looks shockingly amateurish. Not nearly to Disney's usual standards. But considering it was a Barry Braverman led project, I guess that's par for the course.

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